Personally, I feel this is starting even now. On an increasing basis, I have to will myself to go be social with others, as opposed to the comfort of home, or alone time outdoors. The people I have historically interacted with are beginning to NOT handle the complexities and the interactions that come between each other as a result of it, (increasing complexity and egos). Like lids on boiling pots ready to blow at almost no provocation.
Add to that, many are now noticing the increasing losses of humans around them due to health conditions, often completely unexpected. This seems to add to the tensions.
I find myself wondering often, should I go out and interact, remaining calm and trying to be understanding of others, or should I withdraw from social contacts on an increasing basis. As hard as it seems, I am repeatedly drawn to socialize and interact, partly as a training exercise and understanding for myself, and partly to be there and available for others. I believe in the future, there will be increasing personal risk in this course of action.
I'll have to work on my personal challenges, beyond just being simple and happy.
I believe at some point, detachment and introspection will be the ultimate answers as you have suggested. I'll still be doing trips to the grocery store, errands around town, and long motorcycle rides by myself in the Pine Barrens of southern New Jersey. This has grown to be one of my favorite of times outdoors. I go out, I ride for an hour or so, pick a spot for a simple lunch, enjoy what comes of those moments, and then behind the handlebars for more time, returning home after completing many miles and many thoughts....
That’s my goal. I live it NOW and expect it by manifesting it into be- ing. I dream the dream and it appears. I’ve always done this. Always thankful for the NOW and what is meant to be. It’s like magic.
I used to ride an FJR 1300A but sold it about 15 years ago to help pay for a new roof. There's no way I'd ride now; far too many idiot cage drivers totally distracted with ear buds, head phones, texting, etc. The number of distracted drivers has increased exponentially in the last 15 years. And the physical conditions of the roads? Are you kidding me? Fifteen years ago they were bad. They've only gotten worse; significantly worse. I'll stick to hiking with my dog on the Appalachian trail and other places, although I often see day hikers, mostly women, out on the trail with ear buds or headphones. I just look at them like they're from outer space - that's totally insane. But hey - who gives a flying fuck about assholes. If they want to be permanently connected to the interwebs, that's their loss, not mine. F 'em
Interesting subject because there apparently is hope for those willing to search out the antidote or 'cure' but that would be a huge leap (that some have taken) to admit the horrifying truth that the gov't/Pharmaceuticals/news/etc agency complex plan to control and eliminate.
I would be curious to hear Clif's opinion on how effective these antidotes are.
Shakespear addressed this in MacBeth's "To be or not to be" soliloquy That was 1623. It remains one of Shakespears most well known works.
More recently, Patrul Rinpoche mid-late 1800's adressed this in his advice from me to myself. I have had a copy for decades that I review regularly, especially when I get wrapped up in engaging in society.
My personal take after 79 years of experience is if I am wondering about engaging, I do a little and see how it goes. It usually ends pretty quickly. I don't see engagement in society to be a necessary condition to engaging with life.
I truly feel you and understand where you’re coming from. Still, we need to find the right place to interact with the right people, but we need to feel, touch and see others, and discuss intricate and interesting topics live.
There’s a risk in seeing withdrawal as a sign of being above the “complexity” of others. Camus and so many humanist thinkers remind us that meaning is created with people, not in isolation.
The modern comfort of staying home (streaming, delivery, endless digital ease) makes it tempting to cut ties, but it also makes us more replaceable, more mechanical, more aligned with the logic of capitalism and, ironically, closer to the AI-driven world we fear becoming.
Human interaction is messy, unpredictable, sometimes exhausting, and absolutely essential. It’s not just a personal challenge; it’s part of staying human in an age that pushes us to retreat. It is what makes us Human in the best sense of the word :-)
I like your comment. Two things now push me to go interact. The first is to be of help, no matter how small it may be. The second is to try and find those who think and feel the same, (partly because I have no partner at this time).
From time-to-time, I am drawn to review both my writings as well as any responses or interactions with others. Today is 8 Dec 2025, and I just re-read your response and find it timely to remind me that it is important to remain engaged with others, while protecting my values and boundaries along the way. You are right. It is both messy and necessary for learning and potentially creating change. I Thank You again for your thoughts and words.
Go with the flow! Don't fight it. It's happening because it's supposed to happen. WHY SPIRITUALLY AWAKE PEOPLE ARE QUIETLY DISAPPEARING FROM SOCIETY by Alan Watts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aHGpfXtgRg
I have watched and retained this video by Alan Watts. I think it is an excellent investment of time to watch it, as I think he does an excellent job of helping to understand interaction and detachment at the same time. Even now, when I do interact, I set myself as an observer and not one who invests emotionally in all the drama and troubles growing and unfolding around us. Thank You for your thoughts.
Keep the simple, replace the happy with acceptance of 'what is' and know that each positive thought and action, however small, makes the world better place.
My mates and family are contracting Turbo cancer like crazy. My sisters husband passes away 'suddenly' three weeks ago. My cousin has been told she is 'untreatable' and her stage 4 Oesophagal turbo cancer came on 'very quickly' according to her Oncologist. Her second bout of cancer in 4-5 years. My oldest mate has terminal liver cancer with spreading tumours. His Oncologist has given him a year to live 'IF' he shells out eleven thousand dollars every two weeks for a medicine that will give him at best an 80% chance of surviving another year. So if he survives he will be destitute.
We live a few kilometres outside of a big town/small city.
When I go in that way I am always, ALWAYS greeted by a speeding ambulance, lights flashing. Generally more than one.
The roads are becoming dangerous with Vaccidents. People passing away at the wheel.
So grateful I didn't take the jab.
However there is still the chem-trails, the e-number food packing out the supermarkets and retarded political agents to keep an eye on.
We work on ourselves. We walk in the forest, eat only farm raised meat, drink only grass fed milk straight from the cow. Get our drinking water from a natural spring. Wash in well water.
We keep learning about the sovereign rights of a living man or living woman. We practice thankfulness, kindness, mindfulness and we share if people ask.
We are not perfect.
Plenty of work to do but we practice compassion, empathy and love in our house.
My cousin has purchased some Ivermectin tablets, she is willing to give it a go. It's not easy for her because she was on facebook a few years ago virtue signalling about getting the jab. It's a big ego knock to be trying Ivermectin but good on her for trying and hopefully not dying. I sent her some follow up material from Dr Makis on Fenbendazole.
Very favourable reports from people who were told they were untreatable.
Sadly my oldest mate is determined to stick with his ruthless Oncologist and he too was virtue signalling and telling everyone else to take the mRNA jab.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it think.
may I ask...do you study the sovereign rights of a living man and woman on your own..this is something I want to study as well and am seeking a book or reference..
Great question. I do study it in the sense of I listen to my wife and she is studying it. She learns it in Lithuanian and translates the information to me.
There are a bunch of podcasts about it. Mark Attwood has just done a good one. There are plenty of others and a whole bunch of books.
Complexity by its very nature comes with inbuilt uncertainty. Which in turn applies to timing. Realistically, there is no way for any living person to determine with any exactitude what 2026 0r 2027, or any other year for that matter, will bring.
Rather than pinning your hopes or fears on particular dates on a calendar, better to live every day as if it's your last, do all the things you meant to do but never got around to and strive to accomplish all those neglected goals shelved through procrastination or laziness.
Can't say I'm not as guilty as the next person, though...
How about live every day like it's your first day? Live like a newborn baby, in total wonder & awe & appreciation. Everything is brand new & wondrous. :-) (of course, keep yourself safe like an adult can.) It's a big reframe.
Nice idea. But a newborn is an empty vessel waiting to be filled up with other people's ideas and ideologies. Which then have to be painfully jettisoned when your own persona wakes up and fights back. At least that's what happened to me the last time around. But thanks for the thought all the same :-)
Excellent points! I totally agree, and that shit (as Clif would express it) is bloody difficult to jettison! keeps biting me :-). Thank you for engaging with my comments. (I must come clean though, it's not an original idea. I read it recently in a novel.)
Why cherry pick Democrats, Clif? Most of all politicians prostitute themselves to the financial elites and the network of corporate control. That's the game. Their choices flow in one direction...to get elected. Follow the money...change the money....live in the present moment.
Thank you Cliff and Heidi. I withdrew during Covid and all the bitching I heard about my decisions with that. Now my withdrawal is something more complex. I keep looking, but haven't found anything I'm attracted to participate in. I'm peaceful with that. I have my animals and my small farmlet, and long distance family relations that take an effort to maintain. It's getting much more pleasant every day to live a solitary life. Blessings to all for the times to come. First of all, survive 2025!
How incredibly perfectly similar this is to my own life. I used to be terrified to be alone. Like I would choose dysfunctional company just to assure my non aloneness. Now. Now being alone is so much richer than the noise of people. I’m happy and content yet lack any drive to move toward a desired outcome. I’m just being. Like floating in a lake on a summer day smelling the smells hearing the sounds and all is well. I’ve been a frantic (driven) wreck my whole life. What the heck happened?
Thanks Clif! Have to say I am suffering from a very severe case of "expectation fatigue"!
Whether it's the Financial System folding, Bathing in the sunbeams of the Dwapara Yuga, the Currency collapsing, or Aliens running around the street taking pot shots at us - it's a lot to have on your mind.
I know the answer is probably something like "Live in the Now moment", but I'm only human (Kali Yuga vintage). It's a pretty big adjustment.
Personally, I feel this is starting even now. On an increasing basis, I have to will myself to go be social with others, as opposed to the comfort of home, or alone time outdoors. The people I have historically interacted with are beginning to NOT handle the complexities and the interactions that come between each other as a result of it, (increasing complexity and egos). Like lids on boiling pots ready to blow at almost no provocation.
Add to that, many are now noticing the increasing losses of humans around them due to health conditions, often completely unexpected. This seems to add to the tensions.
I find myself wondering often, should I go out and interact, remaining calm and trying to be understanding of others, or should I withdraw from social contacts on an increasing basis. As hard as it seems, I am repeatedly drawn to socialize and interact, partly as a training exercise and understanding for myself, and partly to be there and available for others. I believe in the future, there will be increasing personal risk in this course of action.
I'll have to work on my personal challenges, beyond just being simple and happy.
May I suggest going inside, again? With exercise. Good for the noggin and bones,etc. This can be your social outlet.
I’ve semi moved and will again. Manifesting this in the NOW. Nature, my love and our animals. Peace be with YOU as you pursue your destiny.
I believe at some point, detachment and introspection will be the ultimate answers as you have suggested. I'll still be doing trips to the grocery store, errands around town, and long motorcycle rides by myself in the Pine Barrens of southern New Jersey. This has grown to be one of my favorite of times outdoors. I go out, I ride for an hour or so, pick a spot for a simple lunch, enjoy what comes of those moments, and then behind the handlebars for more time, returning home after completing many miles and many thoughts....
That’s my goal. I live it NOW and expect it by manifesting it into be- ing. I dream the dream and it appears. I’ve always done this. Always thankful for the NOW and what is meant to be. It’s like magic.
Thank You.
I used to ride an FJR 1300A but sold it about 15 years ago to help pay for a new roof. There's no way I'd ride now; far too many idiot cage drivers totally distracted with ear buds, head phones, texting, etc. The number of distracted drivers has increased exponentially in the last 15 years. And the physical conditions of the roads? Are you kidding me? Fifteen years ago they were bad. They've only gotten worse; significantly worse. I'll stick to hiking with my dog on the Appalachian trail and other places, although I often see day hikers, mostly women, out on the trail with ear buds or headphones. I just look at them like they're from outer space - that's totally insane. But hey - who gives a flying fuck about assholes. If they want to be permanently connected to the interwebs, that's their loss, not mine. F 'em
The Vaxxx and the booster will finished them off, for sure, it is a time "bomb"
Interesting subject because there apparently is hope for those willing to search out the antidote or 'cure' but that would be a huge leap (that some have taken) to admit the horrifying truth that the gov't/Pharmaceuticals/news/etc agency complex plan to control and eliminate.
I would be curious to hear Clif's opinion on how effective these antidotes are.
Shakespear addressed this in MacBeth's "To be or not to be" soliloquy That was 1623. It remains one of Shakespears most well known works.
More recently, Patrul Rinpoche mid-late 1800's adressed this in his advice from me to myself. I have had a copy for decades that I review regularly, especially when I get wrapped up in engaging in society.
My personal take after 79 years of experience is if I am wondering about engaging, I do a little and see how it goes. It usually ends pretty quickly. I don't see engagement in society to be a necessary condition to engaging with life.
I truly feel you and understand where you’re coming from. Still, we need to find the right place to interact with the right people, but we need to feel, touch and see others, and discuss intricate and interesting topics live.
There’s a risk in seeing withdrawal as a sign of being above the “complexity” of others. Camus and so many humanist thinkers remind us that meaning is created with people, not in isolation.
The modern comfort of staying home (streaming, delivery, endless digital ease) makes it tempting to cut ties, but it also makes us more replaceable, more mechanical, more aligned with the logic of capitalism and, ironically, closer to the AI-driven world we fear becoming.
Human interaction is messy, unpredictable, sometimes exhausting, and absolutely essential. It’s not just a personal challenge; it’s part of staying human in an age that pushes us to retreat. It is what makes us Human in the best sense of the word :-)
I like your comment. Two things now push me to go interact. The first is to be of help, no matter how small it may be. The second is to try and find those who think and feel the same, (partly because I have no partner at this time).
Also, don't forget that life is meant to be lived :-)
As Rich said, go with the flow
From time-to-time, I am drawn to review both my writings as well as any responses or interactions with others. Today is 8 Dec 2025, and I just re-read your response and find it timely to remind me that it is important to remain engaged with others, while protecting my values and boundaries along the way. You are right. It is both messy and necessary for learning and potentially creating change. I Thank You again for your thoughts and words.
Go with the flow! Don't fight it. It's happening because it's supposed to happen. WHY SPIRITUALLY AWAKE PEOPLE ARE QUIETLY DISAPPEARING FROM SOCIETY by Alan Watts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aHGpfXtgRg
I have watched and retained this video by Alan Watts. I think it is an excellent investment of time to watch it, as I think he does an excellent job of helping to understand interaction and detachment at the same time. Even now, when I do interact, I set myself as an observer and not one who invests emotionally in all the drama and troubles growing and unfolding around us. Thank You for your thoughts.
The video had been taken down, when I attempted to view it.
That’s well said, friend.
My experience is similar.
And my advice is to listen to the promptings of intuition.
It’s the sentences that pop into our heads that we notice but usually brush aside.
In other words, think less and listen more.
Peace out. 🙂
My intuition now tells me when it is time to disengage/detach, and head home.
Why?
Why?
i am drawn to do it. If we completely withdraw, how can we make a better world in the future?
Keep the simple, replace the happy with acceptance of 'what is' and know that each positive thought and action, however small, makes the world better place.
THANKS FOR HELPING!
A fair comment. Thank You.
By working on yourself and improving every aspect of you
Not?
My mates and family are contracting Turbo cancer like crazy. My sisters husband passes away 'suddenly' three weeks ago. My cousin has been told she is 'untreatable' and her stage 4 Oesophagal turbo cancer came on 'very quickly' according to her Oncologist. Her second bout of cancer in 4-5 years. My oldest mate has terminal liver cancer with spreading tumours. His Oncologist has given him a year to live 'IF' he shells out eleven thousand dollars every two weeks for a medicine that will give him at best an 80% chance of surviving another year. So if he survives he will be destitute.
We live a few kilometres outside of a big town/small city.
When I go in that way I am always, ALWAYS greeted by a speeding ambulance, lights flashing. Generally more than one.
The roads are becoming dangerous with Vaccidents. People passing away at the wheel.
So grateful I didn't take the jab.
However there is still the chem-trails, the e-number food packing out the supermarkets and retarded political agents to keep an eye on.
We work on ourselves. We walk in the forest, eat only farm raised meat, drink only grass fed milk straight from the cow. Get our drinking water from a natural spring. Wash in well water.
We keep learning about the sovereign rights of a living man or living woman. We practice thankfulness, kindness, mindfulness and we share if people ask.
We are not perfect.
Plenty of work to do but we practice compassion, empathy and love in our house.
Blessings to all of you good people.
Ivermectin? Fenbendazole? Anyone trying it? I'm sure there are a ton of people out there who need some encouragement.
My cousin has purchased some Ivermectin tablets, she is willing to give it a go. It's not easy for her because she was on facebook a few years ago virtue signalling about getting the jab. It's a big ego knock to be trying Ivermectin but good on her for trying and hopefully not dying. I sent her some follow up material from Dr Makis on Fenbendazole.
Very favourable reports from people who were told they were untreatable.
Sadly my oldest mate is determined to stick with his ruthless Oncologist and he too was virtue signalling and telling everyone else to take the mRNA jab.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it think.
may I ask...do you study the sovereign rights of a living man and woman on your own..this is something I want to study as well and am seeking a book or reference..
Great question. I do study it in the sense of I listen to my wife and she is studying it. She learns it in Lithuanian and translates the information to me.
There are a bunch of podcasts about it. Mark Attwood has just done a good one. There are plenty of others and a whole bunch of books.
thank you, I appreciate your reply and will look at Mark Attwood.
https://rumble.com/v6z4fg4-the-path-to-true-sovereignty-see-things-you-will-never-unsee-again-16th-sep.html?e9s=src_v1_clr%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
Oh my, I’m so sorry to hear that!
It sounds like your town was a hot spot, where certain batches were worse than others.
Very upsetting!
I think it's everywhere. If people in your location jabbed, the ambulances will be abounding.
Thank you clif, I so appreciate the help with focus. At least it feels like it will help tone down potential overwhelm. Love to you and Heidi.
Let's all manifest our best reality.
I quit my job on Oct 21. I haven't much choice but to retire early. I'm looking forward to it.
You may be right; or you may be wrong.
Complexity by its very nature comes with inbuilt uncertainty. Which in turn applies to timing. Realistically, there is no way for any living person to determine with any exactitude what 2026 0r 2027, or any other year for that matter, will bring.
Rather than pinning your hopes or fears on particular dates on a calendar, better to live every day as if it's your last, do all the things you meant to do but never got around to and strive to accomplish all those neglected goals shelved through procrastination or laziness.
Can't say I'm not as guilty as the next person, though...
How about live every day like it's your first day? Live like a newborn baby, in total wonder & awe & appreciation. Everything is brand new & wondrous. :-) (of course, keep yourself safe like an adult can.) It's a big reframe.
Nice idea. But a newborn is an empty vessel waiting to be filled up with other people's ideas and ideologies. Which then have to be painfully jettisoned when your own persona wakes up and fights back. At least that's what happened to me the last time around. But thanks for the thought all the same :-)
Excellent points! I totally agree, and that shit (as Clif would express it) is bloody difficult to jettison! keeps biting me :-). Thank you for engaging with my comments. (I must come clean though, it's not an original idea. I read it recently in a novel.)
This is an excellent excellent idea. I appreciate this, I am going to implement this into my 2026!
Why cherry pick Democrats, Clif? Most of all politicians prostitute themselves to the financial elites and the network of corporate control. That's the game. Their choices flow in one direction...to get elected. Follow the money...change the money....live in the present moment.
Agree.... Politicians suck.
With gratitude for the wisdom shared!
Woo HOO crew!
Congratulations and consider yourself hugged!🥰
I am expecting to see more change these next two years than in my entire life. And I am 73.
Thank you Cliff and Heidi. I withdrew during Covid and all the bitching I heard about my decisions with that. Now my withdrawal is something more complex. I keep looking, but haven't found anything I'm attracted to participate in. I'm peaceful with that. I have my animals and my small farmlet, and long distance family relations that take an effort to maintain. It's getting much more pleasant every day to live a solitary life. Blessings to all for the times to come. First of all, survive 2025!
Keep doing what you’re doing, friend. Our function now is to serve as anchors of light and sanity while things go off the rails.
To enjoy your life is literally the best contribution you can make to humanity.
How incredibly perfectly similar this is to my own life. I used to be terrified to be alone. Like I would choose dysfunctional company just to assure my non aloneness. Now. Now being alone is so much richer than the noise of people. I’m happy and content yet lack any drive to move toward a desired outcome. I’m just being. Like floating in a lake on a summer day smelling the smells hearing the sounds and all is well. I’ve been a frantic (driven) wreck my whole life. What the heck happened?
Manifesting is natural. Pick IT and let go. No doubts. Just imagine, focus and order up . And WHOOP! There it is!
and the activator is the Gratitude felt in your heart for its creation
Interesting concept that my activities in preparation may alter what future challenges will come my way.
Rock 'n roll brother Clif many thanks, that was energizing to say the least!
Thanks Clif! Have to say I am suffering from a very severe case of "expectation fatigue"!
Whether it's the Financial System folding, Bathing in the sunbeams of the Dwapara Yuga, the Currency collapsing, or Aliens running around the street taking pot shots at us - it's a lot to have on your mind.
I know the answer is probably something like "Live in the Now moment", but I'm only human (Kali Yuga vintage). It's a pretty big adjustment.
Thank you, Clif. I must say, I miss your recordings. It’s something in your voice. It comforts me.
Those long slurpy tea slugs, or the hilarious mf*kr bombs. Miss it all.
I know you don’t read comments, so hoping Heidi might glance. Heidi is the perfect Ying to your yang.
Blessings Dear Ones!!