New car charging station in the parking lot of my local chain grocery. I guess they didn't own that corner of it, and there are a dozen ginormous 6" power lines stubbed up to 3 ft high, for car charging stations. My heart was pounding as I approached, and continued pounding until I entered the store. So, yeah, for charging cars. The basturds, its easy to see its a 5g kill zone. I alerted employees to be very conscious about how bad it may make them feel. Holy shit people are blind to their own destruction, running, zombie walking toward it. I guess I wont be shopping there anymore, its getting tough to stay out of the killzones here in north Portland. Walk away from it? (30 year investment in a house I can't sell because of a normie partner) asap?
Focus on the 5.25 Billion KWh for the Gigafactory. Looks like the AI used the entire energy requirement to build the factory in the calculation for a single battery. Should have been 5.25B KWh / 1.7M vehicle-battery = 3,088 KWh.
The final cost should be = 3,088 KWH + 320,000 KWh + $5,430 + $30. Not sure what that is in barrels of oil.
That doesn't look right. Looks like it didn't include the "5,250,000,000 kWh (Gigafactory construction) / 1.7 million vehicles" calculation correctly. If 3M barrels of oil per car was correct that would be 3,088,431 barrels of oil per car times 1,700,000 cars produced = 5.2 trillion barrels of oil = 769 years of oil consumption for the entire US.
I'd also like to see this assessment of "wind turbine" energy production. When asking AI about this, be sure to include the millions of birds and bats killed each year, as well as the ugly blight on the landscape; also the assumptions made concerning sustained wind, and the effects of freezing temps on the mechanics.
Reminds me of Star Trek episodes when they come up against a real problem and the captain or the first officer or Data quizzes the computer and ask the computer questions so they can figure out the dilemma in the episode. I can just picture Cliff sitting there in the captain's chair quizzing the computer. Who would have ever thought 25 years ago watching a Star Trek episode that we would actually be doing that.
You haven't broken it, Clif. Check out Archaix on YT, he did an in-depth test on ChatGPT; He proved that ChatGPT, makes up fictional characters and credits them with facts or falsely credits real people for work they have never done.
This shows what it takes to peek behind their curtain. Thank you for doing this Clif. Now let's make it go viral.
take that you WEFers!
New car charging station in the parking lot of my local chain grocery. I guess they didn't own that corner of it, and there are a dozen ginormous 6" power lines stubbed up to 3 ft high, for car charging stations. My heart was pounding as I approached, and continued pounding until I entered the store. So, yeah, for charging cars. The basturds, its easy to see its a 5g kill zone. I alerted employees to be very conscious about how bad it may make them feel. Holy shit people are blind to their own destruction, running, zombie walking toward it. I guess I wont be shopping there anymore, its getting tough to stay out of the killzones here in north Portland. Walk away from it? (30 year investment in a house I can't sell because of a normie partner) asap?
ALL THAT PLUS THE COST OF THE VEHICLE !!!
I believe the AI missed something in this calculation.
Total energy cost = 15,000 kWh (battery production) + 1,890 kWh (lithium extraction) + 6,480 kWh (lithium transportation) + 5,250,000,000 kWh (Gigafactory construction) / 1.7 million vehicles + 5,400 kWh (battery transportation) + 81 kWh (battery recycling) + 10,000 gallons of diesel fuel (battery charging) + $5,400 (battery disposal) + $30 (battery fires) = 5,250,320,000 kWh + $5,430 + $30.
Focus on the 5.25 Billion KWh for the Gigafactory. Looks like the AI used the entire energy requirement to build the factory in the calculation for a single battery. Should have been 5.25B KWh / 1.7M vehicle-battery = 3,088 KWh.
The final cost should be = 3,088 KWH + 320,000 KWh + $5,430 + $30. Not sure what that is in barrels of oil.
Since the battery is the source of propulsion, do we not have to compare it to the cost of the gasoline/diesel and the ICE?
Apologies if this is a dumb question.
Heh, Cliffy seems to have reneged on is threat to create less.
Sweet.
So much to read about.
So much to consume.
So much to know.
And the hour is getting late.
That doesn't look right. Looks like it didn't include the "5,250,000,000 kWh (Gigafactory construction) / 1.7 million vehicles" calculation correctly. If 3M barrels of oil per car was correct that would be 3,088,431 barrels of oil per car times 1,700,000 cars produced = 5.2 trillion barrels of oil = 769 years of oil consumption for the entire US.
I'll stick to my 1994 Nissan terrano 4×4 .Not the best car in the world but it works for me.
So, a massive sink, not a source of energy ... EROEI
call me old fashioned but when I was 5 I drove a pedal car on the sidewalk, powered by raspberries on my cheerios.
I'd also like to see this assessment of "wind turbine" energy production. When asking AI about this, be sure to include the millions of birds and bats killed each year, as well as the ugly blight on the landscape; also the assumptions made concerning sustained wind, and the effects of freezing temps on the mechanics.
How many barrels of oil does it take to make the Sun? Why I love sun bathing as my ultimate free source of energy.
Reminds me of Star Trek episodes when they come up against a real problem and the captain or the first officer or Data quizzes the computer and ask the computer questions so they can figure out the dilemma in the episode. I can just picture Cliff sitting there in the captain's chair quizzing the computer. Who would have ever thought 25 years ago watching a Star Trek episode that we would actually be doing that.
You haven't broken it, Clif. Check out Archaix on YT, he did an in-depth test on ChatGPT; He proved that ChatGPT, makes up fictional characters and credits them with facts or falsely credits real people for work they have never done.
Perfect example of why one needs to check the output... egregious math errors.