I have a very simple question. I am not and have never been a drug user. How would a person know that the “hyperspace” experienced while on a hallucinogenic is real? If that is “real”, how does it differ from a dream being “real”? Or an alcoholic paranoid stupor being “real”? If a person can capture their thoughts by expressing them…
I have a very simple question. I am not and have never been a drug user. How would a person know that the “hyperspace” experienced while on a hallucinogenic is real? If that is “real”, how does it differ from a dream being “real”? Or an alcoholic paranoid stupor being “real”? If a person can capture their thoughts by expressing them in words, such as a writer telling a story they have made up, does that make the story “real”? Or the lyrics to a song “real”? Don’t we all “travel” in a sort of “hyperspace” when we do these things? Just a question from a simple old retired lady who lives on a farm and enjoys listening to new ideas. I am not trying to be argumentative.
I have used hallucinogens a few times when I was in my 20s (in the 70s).
However the greatest hallucinations I have ever had were via deep transcendental meditation. I worked on it for most of my life, by sensing my energy reaching beyond my skin, encompassing my environment, larger and larger until I felt in communion with the entire Universe. I studied martial arts and traditional medicine so I expected to be able to access the Akashic Records.
I used this method to ask questions and also to 'launch' the ideas I wanted to see manifest in the world.
When I became a Barefoot Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine, specialising in herbs I found the subject so vast that I asked for help to assimilate the knowledge I needed to pass exams. It worked. I was able to write formulas that I had not actually studied but which turned out to be ancient.
As a result of my success in herbal healing I was invited to join a coven of witches. They gave me a Book of Shadows. The first page of which demanded that the contents would have to be kept secret. I told the witches I would meditate on the matter and get back to them.
That night I went into a deep quiet transcendental meditative trance and asked if it was right to keep secrets. I was immediately transported upwards and sucked towards the jaws of a vast black spider at incredible speed. I was masticated in the mouth of the spider and spat out in a stream of blood which headed towards earth and, upon reaching the surface, spread out evenly all over, leaving not an inch of space that was not red from my blood.
A strong calm voice stated, at that moment: This is what we do with knowledge.
I returned to normal consciousness. I returned the Book of Shadows to the witches and told them that keeping secrets was not going to be on my agenda. Thanks, but no thanks.
Within a few months of this experience two of the witches were dead of drink/drugs overdoses and the third was crushed in a terrible car accident, losing the use of her legs.
They had not heeded the warning that my hallucination carried.
I believe anyone sober, sensible and unsullied with drugs can achieve the fullest connection with the Universe and everything. Nothing I experienced under the influence of hallucinogens could compare with the visions I have had in a clean state. I hope this helps. xx
Decades ago when I changed my diet to eating natural, unprocessed foods and became vegetarian for the most part i immediately noticed my dreams becoming much more vivid. Both my brother and I experimented with astral projection and before long I was having quite a few flying dreams. I visited unknown planets,ancient civilizations, underwater realms and crystal palaces. I think my die directly impacted my pineal gland. When humans are healthy they can freely see the future,communicate with spirits and move easily throughout the universe.
Like Frances, I studied martial , traditional chinese medicine and learned how to do siatsu, deep tissue body work and acupressure. When my husband was dying, lying in a coma in the hospital, I held his hand for a very long time. There was a pulsation I think called the silver cord..it was a very strong electrical current I felt move between our bodies. He suddenly became awake and we communicated for three days before he eventually passed. I think all of us have abilities far greater than are acknowledged and when we learn to access these skills, our lives become so much richer and deeper. We can accomplish far more than we are ever told. Humans have incredible powers but without understanding them, they can be terrifying. It can also take a lifetime to develop them and few humans want to devote that much time and energy to these lost arts, unfortunately.
Yes, I had Similar experiences "when I changed my diet." Although I've come to suspect it's not diet alone, but your impetus for the change (i.e. not to look better, but to BE better).
I did not have a typical childhood back in the 1950s when I was growing up. My father had health problems, particularly with his G I tract and was constantly experimenting. He joined the National Health Federation went to seminars, frequented health food stores that had carrot juice bars and lugged home gallons of distilled water. He experimented with yoga and was frequently found standing on his head. He tried a carnivore diet before eating only raw food and eventually settled on a macrobiotic diet in the 1960s.
He always encouraged me to be physically active, making sure I had bicycles, roller skates ant tennis rackets. His favorite cures were vitamin C and baking soda and he didn't trust doctors. I did not see a doctor from the age of five until I entered high school we were not allowed to have soft drinks, junk food or pizza and ice cream was a very rare event!
I read all the Carlos Castaneda books when I was very young. They had a profound influence on me. One of the spookiest things that has ever happened was one day a friend came to see me and said that a woman had warned her to keep away from me! This particular woman had said that I "haunt people"! My friend laughed and said "Don't be daft! Fran isn't dead! She can't haunt people!" but the woman said, very seriously "Fran can!"
I just followed your Substack as well as your Bitchute & HiveBlog. I look forward to learning your point of view on geopolitical issues & polic6 decisions affecting our world. Still, I would love to have a cuppa with you but I am in Michigan. If you ever travel here I would not hesitate to host you and show you our beautiful forests & lakes! Peace to you dear Lady.
You are so sweet! I am nearly 71 years young and disabled now. I have to use a mobility scooter to get around this little Dorset village in southern England. I let my passport expire in 2017 because I accept the limits of my new conditions.
I travelled a lot when I was young, so my itchy feet are satisfied. I do all the travelling I need by astral projection these days!
Thank you for your lovely invitation - I adore forests and lakes!
Also many thanks for subscribing to my various publishing spaces. You will not find much new from me on Hive or Bitchute. I concentrate most of my energy to write on Substack, which is a terrific venue with great facilities, attitude, community and statistical support.
You area an amazing person, and I am glad there are people like you in this world. I hope you are blessed a million times over. Thank you for teaching us how to heal too!
Thank you. I have often wondered why one would need to be influenced by a drug or hallucinogen. It would seem, to me, at least, a complete and honest experience would only be hindered by the drug effect.
It is possible to access this state without the aid of substances, and also possible to exert physical force and feelings across space and time. It can be discovered by accident, such as when intensely concentrating on a particular person or place, or it can be cultivated by conscious technique. Robert Monroe's 'Journeys Out of the Body' is a good primer of the latter. In any case it is distinct, differs fundamentally from mere traveling via imagination, and shares similarities with prayer, meditation, and the Zen void Clif refers to. For me, it was repeatable and distant subjects of concentration gave ample and unprompted feedback both positive and negative, so I quickly learned to be very careful with it. The biblical phrase "wrestling with angels" seems apt, at least in my experience. Have fun with the farm animals. ;-)
Shaman would be confused by your reference to "using Drugs" as they would never think about Ayahuasca that way. It is a plant based medicine and I can personally attest to it's fundamental importance! :-)
Psychedelic experience are real, but so far from ordinary consciousness that subjective interpretation is required. One even has to decide what words to use in the description, and what new meanings may be associated with these words. My many trips never led me to the conclusions that Clif came to. Note that the AI states repeatedly that is is employing Clif's premise simple for purposes of speculation, and that none of his propositions are supported.
I have a very simple question. I am not and have never been a drug user. How would a person know that the “hyperspace” experienced while on a hallucinogenic is real? If that is “real”, how does it differ from a dream being “real”? Or an alcoholic paranoid stupor being “real”? If a person can capture their thoughts by expressing them in words, such as a writer telling a story they have made up, does that make the story “real”? Or the lyrics to a song “real”? Don’t we all “travel” in a sort of “hyperspace” when we do these things? Just a question from a simple old retired lady who lives on a farm and enjoys listening to new ideas. I am not trying to be argumentative.
I have used hallucinogens a few times when I was in my 20s (in the 70s).
However the greatest hallucinations I have ever had were via deep transcendental meditation. I worked on it for most of my life, by sensing my energy reaching beyond my skin, encompassing my environment, larger and larger until I felt in communion with the entire Universe. I studied martial arts and traditional medicine so I expected to be able to access the Akashic Records.
I used this method to ask questions and also to 'launch' the ideas I wanted to see manifest in the world.
When I became a Barefoot Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine, specialising in herbs I found the subject so vast that I asked for help to assimilate the knowledge I needed to pass exams. It worked. I was able to write formulas that I had not actually studied but which turned out to be ancient.
As a result of my success in herbal healing I was invited to join a coven of witches. They gave me a Book of Shadows. The first page of which demanded that the contents would have to be kept secret. I told the witches I would meditate on the matter and get back to them.
That night I went into a deep quiet transcendental meditative trance and asked if it was right to keep secrets. I was immediately transported upwards and sucked towards the jaws of a vast black spider at incredible speed. I was masticated in the mouth of the spider and spat out in a stream of blood which headed towards earth and, upon reaching the surface, spread out evenly all over, leaving not an inch of space that was not red from my blood.
A strong calm voice stated, at that moment: This is what we do with knowledge.
I returned to normal consciousness. I returned the Book of Shadows to the witches and told them that keeping secrets was not going to be on my agenda. Thanks, but no thanks.
Within a few months of this experience two of the witches were dead of drink/drugs overdoses and the third was crushed in a terrible car accident, losing the use of her legs.
They had not heeded the warning that my hallucination carried.
I believe anyone sober, sensible and unsullied with drugs can achieve the fullest connection with the Universe and everything. Nothing I experienced under the influence of hallucinogens could compare with the visions I have had in a clean state. I hope this helps. xx
Decades ago when I changed my diet to eating natural, unprocessed foods and became vegetarian for the most part i immediately noticed my dreams becoming much more vivid. Both my brother and I experimented with astral projection and before long I was having quite a few flying dreams. I visited unknown planets,ancient civilizations, underwater realms and crystal palaces. I think my die directly impacted my pineal gland. When humans are healthy they can freely see the future,communicate with spirits and move easily throughout the universe.
Like Frances, I studied martial , traditional chinese medicine and learned how to do siatsu, deep tissue body work and acupressure. When my husband was dying, lying in a coma in the hospital, I held his hand for a very long time. There was a pulsation I think called the silver cord..it was a very strong electrical current I felt move between our bodies. He suddenly became awake and we communicated for three days before he eventually passed. I think all of us have abilities far greater than are acknowledged and when we learn to access these skills, our lives become so much richer and deeper. We can accomplish far more than we are ever told. Humans have incredible powers but without understanding them, they can be terrifying. It can also take a lifetime to develop them and few humans want to devote that much time and energy to these lost arts, unfortunately.
Yes, I had Similar experiences "when I changed my diet." Although I've come to suspect it's not diet alone, but your impetus for the change (i.e. not to look better, but to BE better).
I did not have a typical childhood back in the 1950s when I was growing up. My father had health problems, particularly with his G I tract and was constantly experimenting. He joined the National Health Federation went to seminars, frequented health food stores that had carrot juice bars and lugged home gallons of distilled water. He experimented with yoga and was frequently found standing on his head. He tried a carnivore diet before eating only raw food and eventually settled on a macrobiotic diet in the 1960s.
He always encouraged me to be physically active, making sure I had bicycles, roller skates ant tennis rackets. His favorite cures were vitamin C and baking soda and he didn't trust doctors. I did not see a doctor from the age of five until I entered high school we were not allowed to have soft drinks, junk food or pizza and ice cream was a very rare event!
That is so profoundly true!
Frances Leader
WOW! Thanks for sharing this story. Reminds me of reading Carlos Castaneda. I wish I could sit down with you and listen to you tell stories.
I read all the Carlos Castaneda books when I was very young. They had a profound influence on me. One of the spookiest things that has ever happened was one day a friend came to see me and said that a woman had warned her to keep away from me! This particular woman had said that I "haunt people"! My friend laughed and said "Don't be daft! Fran isn't dead! She can't haunt people!" but the woman said, very seriously "Fran can!"
Frances
I just followed your Substack as well as your Bitchute & HiveBlog. I look forward to learning your point of view on geopolitical issues & polic6 decisions affecting our world. Still, I would love to have a cuppa with you but I am in Michigan. If you ever travel here I would not hesitate to host you and show you our beautiful forests & lakes! Peace to you dear Lady.
You are so sweet! I am nearly 71 years young and disabled now. I have to use a mobility scooter to get around this little Dorset village in southern England. I let my passport expire in 2017 because I accept the limits of my new conditions.
I travelled a lot when I was young, so my itchy feet are satisfied. I do all the travelling I need by astral projection these days!
Thank you for your lovely invitation - I adore forests and lakes!
Also many thanks for subscribing to my various publishing spaces. You will not find much new from me on Hive or Bitchute. I concentrate most of my energy to write on Substack, which is a terrific venue with great facilities, attitude, community and statistical support.
Much love! xx
You area an amazing person, and I am glad there are people like you in this world. I hope you are blessed a million times over. Thank you for teaching us how to heal too!
Thank you. I have often wondered why one would need to be influenced by a drug or hallucinogen. It would seem, to me, at least, a complete and honest experience would only be hindered by the drug effect.
I've never experimented with drugs, but am often asked whether I do (when I share my experiences lol).
It is possible to access this state without the aid of substances, and also possible to exert physical force and feelings across space and time. It can be discovered by accident, such as when intensely concentrating on a particular person or place, or it can be cultivated by conscious technique. Robert Monroe's 'Journeys Out of the Body' is a good primer of the latter. In any case it is distinct, differs fundamentally from mere traveling via imagination, and shares similarities with prayer, meditation, and the Zen void Clif refers to. For me, it was repeatable and distant subjects of concentration gave ample and unprompted feedback both positive and negative, so I quickly learned to be very careful with it. The biblical phrase "wrestling with angels" seems apt, at least in my experience. Have fun with the farm animals. ;-)
Shaman would be confused by your reference to "using Drugs" as they would never think about Ayahuasca that way. It is a plant based medicine and I can personally attest to it's fundamental importance! :-)
Psychedelic experience are real, but so far from ordinary consciousness that subjective interpretation is required. One even has to decide what words to use in the description, and what new meanings may be associated with these words. My many trips never led me to the conclusions that Clif came to. Note that the AI states repeatedly that is is employing Clif's premise simple for purposes of speculation, and that none of his propositions are supported.
What relationship does hyperspace have to metaphysics?
Maybe they are the same thing?
If so, metaphysics is a term used long ago, before the idea of magical realism.