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I can’t believe that Cliff still believes that NASA tells the truth. Everything that NASA shows is BS.

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This is a really interesting subject - i'm glad someone here brought this into discussion. I do not believe the earth is flat - but I also do not accept the model that has been shown to us - we've been lied to about too much to not bring this subject into question. There are just far too many inconsistencies with the earth being "round" as we have been instructed to understand. I don't have any theories or answers — just a lot of questions.

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Even as a child, I paused at the fact, “we’re spinning so fast that you cannot notice.”

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Here's a plausible theory posited by Nassim Haramien that makes sense to my little mind. He states the oft mentioned 'black sun' is actually a beach ball sized dying black hole in the center of earth. This explains gravity. He goes on to state that all celestial bodies have one at the center and what's more is they are used as portals by those that have the tech, outer or inner ... well perhaps the Holly.wood movies on this topic are correct, of which there are many, just none of them place the hole at the center of the planet.

Another interesting point is the Egyptian hieroglyphs that produce the sound 'SBA' means Door, Teaching & Star, and we've been told stars/sun's are used as portals. 🤔

💖🙏💫.

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This is very easy to prove to your self that we easily could be.

Have you ever had a fly in your car? Can a fly, fly at 70mph?

Nope, but they can still fly around in your car while you drive at that speed.

Ever flew in a plane? Can you tell your moving at 400mph?

Nope, the immediate atmosphere around you, created by the shell of the vehicle allows you to not be effected by the speed.

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Because the car (or plane) and the contents are all traveling at the same speed, the contents (you and the fly) stay in their same positions relative to the car. This would hold true if we were on a flat earth without anything spinning underfoot, so this neither proves nor disproves the globe earth model. It's simply irrelevant to the debate between globe/flat earth.

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You missed the point, flat earth's claim that planes can not fly if the earth is hurtling through space at a high rate of speed.

My examples only prove their thought processes are flawed.

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I can tell both of you one thing: this thing we call reality. It is much more akin to a dream then you might realize. And as such, the "laws" of physics simply do not exist! This is my opinion based on my own actual experiences.. not on things I have read. I can advise all of you reading: get into LUCID DREAMING.. it will serve you well

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Also the coriolis effect proves the earth is spinning. I've seen the effects of it in ultra long range shooting.

I'm still open to the possibility that the earth might not be a ball, but there is too much evidence that the earth is moving and that the sun is most likely not.

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Open the window and see if you're still NOT affected by the speed.

D'oh!

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You can't roll the window down on earth's atmosphere!

I thought Clif's customer base was a bit smarter than this.

We're talking about closed atmosphere, cars and planes are simple examples that the earth could be flying through spaces without feeling the effects of it!

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We are only spinning one revolution per day. That’s pretty slow.

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That's approximately 1,000 miles/hour at the Equator.

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Angular change is 360/24x60x60 degrees per second.

0.00417 which surely is imperceptible. It takes 24 hours to rotate through 360 degrees. The rotational velocity is constant and therefore the only acceleration is the change of angular rotation, which is so small as to be noticeable, as already established.

Ergo, claiming that 'you can't feel the rotation therefore it isn't there' is false.

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1000 mph slow ?

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I also have questions. How can there be a vacuum above an atmosphere without containment? And if there is water, how does that stay up there. So, if there is a dome like the Bible states, then how do rockets get thru, or do they. Why is NASA the biggest buyer of Helium? The Bible also states that this plane of existence that we live on is on a foundation. So everywhere we turn, lies.

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thought this was an interesting video and short.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NMDXdeFFw8gy/

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because Helium is required to create the All-Authoritarian Voice of Command...

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I can hear that squeekie voice now.

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As you say, everywhere we turn, ‘lies’......

These questions cannot be answered to everyone's satisfaction. We should not be concerned with things like this. Topics like these are programs filed in the Tree of Knowledge. We are told not to access those, rather to 'eat' from the Tree of Life. Should we not concern ourselves with issues of immediacy that we see right in front of us ? Do our families need help? Should we not ‘represent’ Divinity in each moment of each day? We have forgotten who we are; we are here to establish the Kingdom; the only ‘government’ that has lawful jurisdiction over us.

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Without conversation, we rely on what was written. We know that the victors write the story’s, if true or not.

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Helium is used for lighter than air balloons - NASA used them for atmospheric research.

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They also use them to hold satellites up.

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agreed. find your Jural Assembly www.orsja.org; this is a diversion.

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Not flat. the part we know is a plane of earth and water surrounded by ice with a dome. A diorama with holographs and such. find you local Jural Assembly. www.orsja.org

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Found this very short video interesting from a freemason.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NMDXdeFFw8gy/

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Here's a plausible theory posited by Nassim Haramien that makes sense to my little mind. He states the oft mentioned 'black sun' is actually a beach ball sized dying black hole in the center of earth. This explains gravity. He goes on to state that all celestial bodies have one at the center and what's more is they are used as portals by those that have the tech, outer or inner ... well perhaps the Holly.wood movies on this topic are correct, of which there are many, just none of them place the hole at the center of the planet.

Another interesting point is the Egyptian hieroglyphs that produce the sound 'SBA' means Door, Teaching & Star, and we've been told stars/sun's are used as portals. 🤔

💖🙏💫.

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If you do not have theories of your own, check out Edmond Halley (yes, of the comet fame) and hollow earth. May open a new horizon. https://royalsociety.org/blog/2023/10/magnetic-halley/

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as someone who has watched the SDO/AIA, AHEAD HI2, LASCO C2, and other telecopes for over a decade, i can vouch for a bunch of the raw data of the sun and local area. you can match up visible sunspots with the satellite data.

whether or not the sun is what they tell us, or if they show us everything, yeah, NASA is generally full of shit as they are gatekeepers. sometimes some gems slip through the satellite feeds that they are diligent in erasing from the archives. there are times they don't realize what they've released.

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It encourages me that so many of these replies show that we don't blindly follow Clif, but take what we will and leave the parts that don't conform to our own experiences or critical thinking. How can Clif believe in Tartary and believe that our history has been hidden from us while categorically denying that NASA has been lying about the globe earth? Anybody seriously believe we went to the moon in the 60s and had instant voice communication here on earth? Galileo was the real deal while Einstein was a fraud?? So little of Clif's dissertations these days, especially about the Elohim and space aliens, have any support documentation, credible or otherwise. As a former Clif High afficionado, I am starting to wonder if even HE is controlled opposition.

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This stuff is coming out all over the place, it's not just Clif talking about it. Did you read the books clif suggested to us? Like "The Naked Bible"? If you do read it, you'll see that it's all about the errors in Translation of the old Hebrew. The words in the OLD TESTAMENT say nothing about a God. Or Angels. Or the Red Sea. They have all been mistranslated over and over and over for 1000's of years by powerful people with different agenda. The same things happens today! The Pope using the bible to push his agenda, which at the moment is Tranny stuff and ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

Mauro Biglino has been translating from the earliest Proto-Hebrew! The Original language.

The Old Testament is a History journal of the 12 Tribes Yahweh was given by the Elohim Council,.....and a Breeding record that records the breeding Yahweh did of his people to achieve a certain kind of human. That's what the Old Testament is! The fact that men used it to xcreate some magical story and add the gospels to doesn't change what the Old Testament really is.

And all the intentional mistranslation to tie the 2 books together,....is not surprise. These people or aliens needed to control masses of people all of whom were following their own gods, To get them to work together and fight together for Yahweh, he had to create ONE Religion for them all to follow. That's why so many of the Pagan Holy Days are in the Christian Bible. It was an attempt to blend the tribes together for better cooperation and control. Clif is telling us this stuff so that bible based religions can get used to it as it is going to come out that their "god" Yahweh was an Alien, not a god at all.

Another good bunch of books and videos are out too, by Paul Wallis,....His "Escaping from Eden" is a good start,....read them and watch the videos on 5th Kind TV on Youtube. Another good book is "Worlds in Collision" by Velikovsky. It's amazing how much of history was written down wrong or the dates and years were made up. It's looking like about 700 years of history didn't exist! Lots of good people are trying to work out what our History really was,....you may chose NOT to believe what you hear, that's fine,....it's all up to you. I think it's very interesting. Especially since History is written by the Winners.

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Very well stated! Clif is not controlled opposition at all. And Bible thumpers are close minded brainwashed victims..zealots in fact. It shows the ultimate weakness of creatures saddled with pride and Egos! I have naked Bible and read lots of it too

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So true! I never connected the Bible with globalism!

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I appreciate your comments. Agree with them all. I for years looked forward to hearing what Clif had to say. Now I read the comments to see whether I should bother. No question that we have been lied to about theological issues. However trying to find answers from other ancient sources seems to me to have brought out more problems than solving existing ones. The earth may not be “flat” exactly but it sure “ain’t a globe.”

When it comes to the shape of the earth and politics I am an anti-globalist!

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Exactly 💯 what I'm thinking now!

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I remain open minded on the topic.....

For me, the lack of willingness to engage in constructive, respectful debate is damaging... but the guarded nature of governments worldwide is very much more so. If you have nothing to hide, why be so protective of information (true information, not the lies and word salads served up to us)?

This discussion has take off (no pun intended) over the past year or two - that is a positive thing as it will accelerate the progress of THE truth (whatever it transpires to be).

Let's keep the conversation alive 😉 💪

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I believe that the reason that the powers in charge did not want the truth out is because they wanted to keep the people enslaved in their system. They feed off us, and if they keep us in fear, we obey.

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Absolutely, that's it exactly. Else they wouldn't have a hope of swaying us to do what their logic wanted.... it's always been about information and the war waged upon it.... think about al those 'witches' burned a few short centuries ago, and how the human psyche went along with it as the phenomenon delevoped.

....same b/s at work now.

But they most definitely are losing this information war, and thus losing in general.

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I agree 100%. He cannot see beyond what his mind cannot comprehend. He is wrong on the whole space concept. Nothing we can do.

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Did you even listen to what he said ?

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Et tu brute

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flat earth

NASA sez it's round

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Which instills even more doubt in my mind.

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Makes you question the intent of all the content being said.

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nasa might tell the truth sometimes. some nuggets of truth. never ever 100% full truth. I think that may be the case here. Clif knows better.

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Hello Woo Crew!! Have a wonderful weekend. Love you all! Try out something new and make something special!

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Yeah, we are now seeing a serious 5Eyes problem in the latest attack on free speech and the Digital Patriot Act Bill. I am coming around to the thought that it just another religious land grab. Global tithes in the name of the Climate Change Cult are becoming more Synonyms for CULT: audience, following, followership, discipleship, fandom, religion, sect, persuasion; Antonyms of CULT: agnosticism, atheism, secularism, unbelief, know-nothingism, godlessness, nonbelief. All I am seeing is a new twist on the Crusades.

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Woooo!

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It’s a great start to the weekend.. a Clif chat 💬 ‼️💥

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Interesting that Clif mentions Nineveh....I hear that the coming eclipse will go across 7 states that have a town named Nineveh in its path.....

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Always more than meets the eye

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Nineveh is a buzz word for today. The path of the eclipse is supposed to connect several or many towns called Nineveh.

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GEEZE Clif...you must spend big bucks on gas. LOL

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Thank you all woo write the truth boldly and aren,t afraid of offending people . Society is crumbling all around us . It,s not time to be nice or likable . The most kind and loving thing we can do is speak the truth . The woo truth will set you free . 👍🤝❤️🇨🇦

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. 62.5% will not say the truth to the de facto. Yes sir; no sir ! 3 bags full Sir. on the left, 12 to 15% are too stupid to qualify to join the military. 16.25% on the right are smart enough to figure it out but will not take action; 3 to 5% on the left control the stupid et al. evil and those that acquiesce to evil ; On the right 3 to 5% of us will return all of us to a Constitutional republican form of government this year 2024. A solution that works is published at www.orsja.org

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I would like to see a constructional republic that votes on policy and not for an elected official. There are to many people that get into politics just for the money and not what is good for the people.

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A solution A remedy To the Color of law governance on Oregon

It is not about peace and justice. We may be able to go thru this time without a fight. It is unlikely that evil will retreat without a struggle. Justice is not available. Remedy is the goal. There is no justice for all the evil we have acquiesced to since March 1861. "They" are killing us and incarcerating us. We are they. My brother is on the de facto side. It will not be peaceful until the medical, military and judicial tyrants are gone. That could be a while. Meeting our responsibilities to ourselves and our progeny is a remedy program not a peace program.

We need a few definitions to start with. Mindset!! Nomenclature!! Definitions and the proper source for your definitions!!. Assume the mantle of a man or woman with our progeny. Your provenance, unique on Earth, from the unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, read the opening paragraph again When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to

(1) dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and

(2) to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should

(3) declare the causes which impel them to the separation. 1776; the 1777 Confederation and perpetual Union's articles stiled The United States of America's Constitution 1859 prior to 1861. The United States of Washington District of Columbia Inc. is the de facto.

We are sovereign (see https://www.1215.org/lawnotes/bouvier/bouvier.htm ) all of us are Sovereign. Only us and kings, and other governments. See also de facto page 416 Black's 6th edition) illegal and illegitimate. We are de jure lawful and Constitutional page 416. They changed the definition in Blacks 11th edition.

So, only you can obtain and hold the mindset, no one can do it for you; we cannot do it alone. Use the proper names for everything and spell it out. Then definitions: Bouvier 1856 is the only Constitutional dictionary. We have Black's 1st edition 1891, 4th, 5th, 6th 1991, 11th current. Words are important, use them correctly, as best as you can. It will take a conversation or 10 to get comfortable with what causes Cognitive Dissonance, Stockholm Syndrome et alia.

The solution is written out, read and follow the prompts, no interpretation needed. We have the documents, close enough, we have the dictionaries, good enough, now for the mindset. the initial conversion to implementing your move to the III%. Then the perseverance and determination to see it through www.orsja.org.

Lincoln’s E.O 100 Lieber Code https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Lincoln%27s+EO+100+Lieber+code&atb=v382-1&ia=web, still in effect 2018 US Army’s Martial law plan.

Ex parte Milligan https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ex+parte+Milligan&atb=v382-1&ia=web,

Mookini 303 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mookini+303&atb=v382-1&ia=web, hid Article III courts

The United States of America https://duckduckgo.com/?q=The+United+States+of+America&atb=v382-1&ia=web, our name for the several states named in 1777. Britannica lies on this link

United States located in Washington District of Columbia, forts, ports and needful buildings the government service company for the several states. It has morphed into United States of Washington District of Columbia Inc

It took www.orsja.org 4.5 years. By taking it one step at a time as we figured it out. The paperwork to establish a Constitutional de jure provisional government on each of the several states and commonwealths and territories can be accomplished in 30 days by Jural Assemblies of 5 people on each state; 15 hours of work; 100 bucks for postage and 40 bucks for a seal.

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👍🤝🇨🇦

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Yippee! Cliff has new video!

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does the waste may have to do with probiotics....cliff, i have been following this thread with particular interest on your topic of probiotics. humans have ~30,000 genes and a rice plant has ~50,000 genes. what is interesting is that the probiotics in the human gut have +1 milllion genes. as you pointed out in earlier podcaste, the metabolites produced have major impact in communicating and changing dna signals in the human body. what adds more interest are the metabolites of mushrooms produced by the probiotics and how the get you to hyperspace. i dont think this is an evolutionary accident but careful engineering.

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Interestingly enough, probiotics are mentioned here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/RrT44BpkKCIi/

Dr. Schoening talks about the projected pandemic, not-quite antibiotics, etc.

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The shamans used mushrooms and cannabis to commune with the esoteric realm.

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i've been looking into therapeutic mushrooms, in particular turkey tail, and how the effects are enhanced by fermentation - it leads into an understanding of why only selected people get benifits - looking like more to do with probiotics you have in your gut. which are able to create the therapeutic metabolites.

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well said,

now find your Jural Assembly.

www.orsja.org

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Is that why they stash the presidential 💩?

You can't psychically attack something with NO MIND.

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50/50. What's in Clif’s head is getting to be more like scrambled eggs as time goes on. He's struggling to pretend that everything is tangible and solid. Something you can tangibly fight back against that can bleed and be killed by man. He doesn't have the insight to see the invisible that can't be killed and manhandled and that terrifies him. It should and it will! Like a fool digging for gold without a pick and shovel he thinks the right answers will appear if you wish it hard enough. Every now and then he has a marginally useful thought and then manipulating the direction it should go to make it more acceptable to his imaginary fan club is what he thinks he's good at. The part that terrifies him the most, and he dares not talk about, is the invisible force, that's the real enemy, that controls whatever tangible Nephilim that may be out there that bullshit and bullets can't kill.

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You have to remember that cliff is a self confessed schizophrenic . He talks about meeting up with a big spider being in space after using drugs for many years.

The elohim are planets...

.NASA has been aware as indeed are very many of us aware of free electricity from the aether that was used by previous generations..the

evidence to this is everywhere and that although now we are charged for it's use it still comes from the aether down the very tall buildings and church spires erected for that purpose in all the countries of the world .

That clif promotes nasa..and it's ludicrous space centres and footage shot pretending to be on the moon etc tells you all you need to know about Clif and the freemasons

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Speaking of sound and how important it is the word is “ruuuu-ach guttural ach at the end like in Hebrew.

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phoenician phonics and venetian vocations

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And don't forget venetian blinds. B.

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Yes please Clif. I would appreciate having a better understanding of electroculture.

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There are many excellent videos on Electroculture on YouTube and other platforms. That's how I got started.

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I experimented with electro culture last summer, and I noticed where I put the copper wound pole, the plants leaves where a deeper green. I had kohlrabi’s that where 7 to 8 inches. But it could also be because of the reduction in chem trails. A lot of trees have died because of the chem trails.

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I too started using electroculture. I read that one end of the copper must go into the ground as much as possible and the higher the other end is (6’ minimum) the better. I believe the “wooden” rod should be on the southern side of the plant as well.

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probably not in this incarnation.

the best bet in Jural Assembly

www.orsja.org

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Smurfs ? remember those little blue beings? there may be some "in your little face" info to be had there! Indian gods/goddesses blue also...maybe they had the elohim blood also!!

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