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Einstein was Deep State installed, a created Bullshit! same as Edison didn't invent FK All, stole everyones Inventions and said he did it! WE HAVE SWALLOWED BULL SHIT FOR OUR ENTIRE

EXISTANCE!

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This shit is flat as fuck Clif come on

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Cut him some slack...he's been producing a hell of a lot of content recently relative to the previous few years when he was sick.

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Wasn't he referring to the shape of the earth?

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Yes, he said it was an oblate spheroid, which is what it is.

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I was referring to Randolph. He said " flat as fuck." I believe he was referring to the shape of the earth but jwm thought he meant the podcast was boring. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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I didn't understand it at all. But Clif did correctly identify the shape we ascribe to it.

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Earth is flat. Only truth NASA has ever spoken

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I've measured it. Done star shots and sun shots and the math. I've also circumnavigated. Just go up in a plane you can see it.

I don't understand this delusion.

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You are delusional John. NASA promotes the Big Lie and you are brainwashed. https://www.tiktok.com/@ahintoftruth/video/7210516856837377322

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I don't TikTok. And as I said I've measured it myself.

If you want to see delusional go look in the mirror.

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See through the fish lense windows that look like it's curved?? Please

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LOL!

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Oh you mean Randolph. Don't know, but I studied geodesy in university.

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Quality>quantity.

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Agreed; we can see way farther than we should be able to see according to standard curvature formulas. Maybe the earth is bigger than we are told, who knows.

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Yes, there are so many inconsistencies. I have so many questions and no way to get the answers. You can see too far. Everything about Nasa seems to be a lie. Frustrating

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I hear you, very frustrating. When we can go to Antarctica with freedom to explore, that's when I believe we will have answers.

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Agreed

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I guess the question is Antarctica located at the bottom of a globe or the periphery of the "Flat Earth" mass.

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Yep, That question answered would certainly "shut up" the other side of that arguement.

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Nasa is nothing but a total scam to extract more tax. We never went to the moon, it has the serpents split tongue in it's logo. It's all the same crap meant to deceive. Clif is deceived as well if he believes white hats are going to save anything. Jesus Christ is the only savior if you choose Him. Almost everything on this Earth is a lie. The CIA or FBI or whoever it was that said something like we will know we have been successful when the American people don't know what to believe and everything they do believe is a lie. Well, I think they've more than achieved their goal. Now they even have most of the sheeple believing there are no sexes and a strong military consists of trannies, trannies should have drag show reading hours with small children, and that men can both give birth and breastfeed. It's truly unbelievable and since Clif can't see the devil's fingerprints all over this deception, I feel sorry for him as he's truly deceived IMO.

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Correct. The supposed "Apollo 13" capsule was found in the water by the Russians. https://www.aulis.com/odyssey_apollo.htm ; http://www.astronautix.com/n/nasaslostbotoryofbp-1227.html

NASA Administrator Thomas Paine resigned right after the Recovery. No one ever reached the Moon.

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Maul agree with most but man needs to be saved by man. We have been given free will, this is a gift. So if you are waiting to be saved by Jesus u will be waiting a long time depending on your age. How many years have passed and how many times have we been told we will be saved.

You have to start to thinking for yourself instead of following. Everything is a lie and an illusion. We have been programmed since birth for eons. If u get that then you will get the rest. Cheers

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Thanks for posting those links!

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I have studied this subject for many years. There is huge evidence Apollo was faked. I worked with Apollo engineers long ago, before all this evidence started coming out. We have probably reached the Moon and elsewhere now with modern tech, not the liquid fuel rockets.

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I wanted to mention that a most significant piece of evidence is that an UNedited film of the Saturn Rocket taking off into space was located. From this film, the accleration, thrust, etc was calculated and it was determined that the rocket and capsule could NOT have reached the orbit required. In fact it was losing acceleration. I therefore believe the astronauts were never in the capsule. I believe they were segregated somewhere for the duration of the "flight".

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How do the CIA FBI know they are not being deceived ? I’ve never thought Clif was deceived by anything. He just tries to work things out all the time.

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IMO - He believes there is a white hat operation going on that will help transition us and I just think that whole operation is a psyop to keep maga and qanon and others calm while they gut the usa

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I hadn’t picked up on the bit that Clif believed there was a white hat operation that’s going to help transition us. I read a lot about the white hats and qanon and I still reserve judgement on it. I’m just not sure either but I believe there is something going on in the background. I just hope it’s in the right direction. I’m not much good on this flat earth stuff so don’t aspire to knowing anything about that.

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I guess I just have a different opinion of this world now. I used to believe that sort of, but now I can clearly see that this planet is allowed to be run by a very dark force that wishes the destruction of God's beloved children. IMO we rebelled against Him to come here to seek fleshly freedom and in order to be saved, we need to turn back to Him through the blood sacrifice of Jesus. God gives us freedom, whereas, this world does not. We are truly prisoners here. I am grateful to Clif bc earlier in this process, I really learned much from him, BUT as with everything, I've asked for discernment and believe my Father in heaven has given me a mustard seed of it and I'd like to help others to get back to our first estate which IMO is a star in the heavens! God bless!

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NASA - Never a straight answer.

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Haha, I thought it was "Not A Space Agency"

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That may be true, too, but I've heard most UFOlogists use the phrase since they can't get info out of NASA about anything. Makes me think NASA knows less about what is going on that anyone!

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It's no astronaut should apply

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NASA legal documents within the government agencies, they say earth is flat. It was taught in school until the 50s!!!! And the Bible mentions it 240x However the Bible mentions NOTHING regarding round earth. Gotta toilet this video. Clif is way the FUCK OFF. bye bye Clif, can't listen to this trash

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If they lie about dimensions it stands to reason that they lie about everything. One lie all lies. How else can it be?

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You should actually get out more, or do better studies while inside Phill B. I think you will be amazed while doing so and be a better commenter after doing so.

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I'm pretty happy he made his stance clear.

From my PoV, the earth is much bigger than we think (which flattens curvatures, so yes, the math of our science is bogus) and our known 'global' realm is something like 1/4th to 1/6th of the actual size of our toroidal planet.

As energy moves in spirals, 2dimensional objects like a plate are disadvantaged to 3dimensional spheres.

Never, since 1981 when I heard the flat earth theory first did I resonate with it. It's not in alignment with natural law,it doesn't mirror the actual flow of expansion and contraction of the universe, the out-breath and in-breath of source creator.

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Your mind is 2 dimensional. So everything a dot? Flat? What happens to water suspended in mid air? A sphere!!! What is the earth mostly? WATER!!! Cut the flat earth bullshit. Bullshit bullshit bullshit.

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People believe in flat earth because they can't let go of the belief that the center of the world is not the "domination" point. It's monkey brain "king of the hill" non-sense. The sky dominates, the center is subsumed.

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Nope! Do the math brother

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There is no way curved spacetime explains gravitational attraction as asserted by Albert Einstein.

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Space time is a concept. How in the heck can you curve a concept?But, hey! Get an artist to make a visual aid in the form of a grid that’s curved, and voila! A figment of someone’s imagination is now the equivalent of a CGI of an alleged virus.

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The Electromagnetic Universe !

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from an a person totally unqualified to offer insight, this makes so much more sense to the scientifically uneducated but logical mind than what we've been indoctrinated to think of as factual....and how could we possess conscience without a creator possessing conscience? keep it up Clif this stuff is important and I pray you stay safe...you are a badass and these little cunts out there don't want people hearing this! God Bless!

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MMMMM thinking stuff

Thanks Clif, God Bless

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Thank you Father God for saving my life more than one time!! My family and I have been blessed and I pray that you will watch over all the good people of this world until you return. I cannot imagine grinding through this evil world without you, for you hold me up when I am weak and help me up when I fall.

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Flat earth movement is getting popular. Someone smart like clif should go through all their talking points and pick them apart. That would require some time because they have a lot of theories.

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And the heliocentric theory doesn't match with observations.

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Not a lot of theories. Just explanations of observations. There’s one theory and is easy to prove. But we need direct evidence. I don’t want theories and math of sky lights.

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Live long and prosper!

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Hey Cliff, why don’t you spend an hour or so explaining all the inconsistencies that flat earth or globe skeptics bring to the table because On the face of it many of these issues have legitimacy and merit. As opposed to dismissing it completely by throwing a sentence or two together. Seems AWFULLY LAZY imo.

In the climate we find ourselves in, such as it is, post-C19 you would understand why folks would challenge the status quo on just about any level. And I think you’re probably insulting a lot of your followers as well.

Or just fuck ‘em... who cares, right?

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I agree with you Michael in regards to Clif spending an hour or so explaining his position regarding flat earth, as opposed to dismissing it with one or two sentences. By the way I care passionately 🙏 Peace out 🖖

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Way too much time has already been wasted on this bankrupt "theory". Enough!

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Sonoluminesence?

Clif says the Sun contains plasma. Brad Johnson says no: “What is the true nature of the sun? Modern science will tell you that it's a ball of fire or that it's hot plasmatic sphere existing in the center of our star system. It does contain radiation but it is not a hot ball of fire or plasma. The sun in actuality does not have its own heat — and it does not have its own light. It is a living well of radioactive energy, so for us to even see the sun we would need to see it in different spectrums, such as x-ray…

“It is not the sun itself that is generating the heat or the light, it is the effects of its rays upon the atmospheres of the planets. We have what's known as the Van Allen radiation belts and we know that through their highly charged energetic particles, these radiation belts are actually a type of oscillator or resonator that works together and bringing in the radiation effect of the sun's rays upon the atmosphere or the ether of the atmosphere that creates a scientific effect — known as sonoluminescence…

“The power of sonoluminescence is vibrations per second. Nikola Tesla knew about vibrations per second. He had an intended undertaking in allowing the production of light by the vibration of the atmosphere, in essence: sonoluminescence. To quote Tesla: “I have come to the conclusion that the sunlight is produced by 500 trillion vibrations of the atmosphere per second in order to manufacture the same kind of light it will be necessary to produce an equal number of vibrations by machinery.” Therefore Tesla himself knew that the sun was not at all a ball of fire like modern science had claimed, it is a powerful living well of radiation that emits untold levels of vibrational energy affecting our atmosphere through the process of sonoluminescence that gives our planet the heat and light needed for life to thrive on Earth. So, it is through sound that again is triggering these immense oscillations of vibrations per second…”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci7Ar5AJSDE

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Do you think this correlates with the 22,000,000,000,000 times per second that matter is said to flash in and out of existence, to which sometimes cliff refers?

I’ve known about that long before I started listening to Cliff, and it’s partly how I see reality.

As a human, you can tune in to your own existence, in which every moment, with our own free will in God’s likeness, we choose to come back here; again, and again, and again, 22,000,000,000,000 times per second.

We have the option to go out, and stay out. Again, we are free will beings, but our frequency, the speed with which we come and go, creates an illusion of consistency in this realm and from what you’re describing about the sun, it sounds like you are saying the faster the frequency, the more consistent the existence, and possibly, the more luminescent.

This causes me to imagine humans that are also eventually (or have once in the past) operating at 500 trillion speeds of frequency of creation destruction per second…

We would be luminescent like the sun...

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I am not saying anything personally here. Most of my comment was a direct quote from Brad Johnson and his video, which I provided a link to. You can watch that video and reach your own conclusions. And yes, of course, we can tune into our own existence — however, it is practically certain that almost no one can tune into 22,000,000,000,000 times a second. I have heard certain Zen teachers use a different number, and even dzogchen master Longchenpa had his own particular number. FWIW, the Taoists sometimes refer to the "10,000 things" which is really just an indicator of multitude, and not precise number.

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Tuning into the 22 trillion would just be a feeling that you learn over time. It’s you at your highest vibration…

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Sorry, but 22 trillion is definitely NOT a feeling. 22 trillion is QUANTITY, not QUALITY.

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This will be my last comment on this thread. Are you saying you can’t feel the difference between drinking 2 gallons of Kool-Aid and 22 gallons of Kool-Aid? Lol It’s called biofeedback. Everything is a feeling if you’re tuned into yourself.

I thought we were here to inspire each other, not argue.

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You don't inspire me.

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Aristotle nailed the physics of sounds and proved sympathetic vibrations. We can incorporate colors by describing them as octaves above certain pitches. An octave doubles the oscillations, for example, one octave above A (432) is A (864), and so on.

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Which army did General Relativity lead?

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Thanks again for helping us!

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You are so wrong on your Alien bologna, I wish you no ill will but pray that God will show you understanding. It is totally wrong historically and with your refusing to gain understanding of the Bible, you will never understand about the Kenites (in Hebrew) sons of Cain translation. This is the key to all understanding of the evil in this world. Period!!

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We are in the BOR and there certainly does seem to be strong delusion everywhere. Everybody I know thinks I'm a brainwashed conspiracy freak. Clif keeps saying sheeple are waking up and yet I still see no signs. I know so many people that still think msm isn't full of lies and the elections are fine in this country, and the vaccines save lives. It's mind-blowing for me. In March of 2020 I got down on my hands and knees and begged God for the truth. I feel like he's shown me this world as the upside-down clown world it is and always was. I was just brainwashed before. It's taken lots of time and videos and Bible reading to deprogram my mind.

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I think so many of us feel this way but remember what Father said about those who choose not to believe the truth. 2 Thessalonians 2 - 10 &11 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

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You keep seeking the truth and you will uncover the ultimate conspiracy that is assisted and globally distributed by that bible written by the Jews.

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The old testament is completely misrepresented as truth, mixes up a false God with a true God, and confuses humanity. But Jesus whether he was a real being or not, an archetype or an actual leader, stands for what he stands for and that can guide anyone on earth towards in our salvation if they choose that path. We can’t throw all the good out with the bad, we live in a world of distorted truths and truth will never be handed to you on a silver spoon. You have to go through the journey before it becomes a part of you. So instead of us arguing about whether the Bible is correct or not, let’s do what we’re all here to do, and look deeper, and work together.

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Well, I pray that when the rapture happens, your eyes will be opened to the real truth of Jesus Christ and you will repent (which means change your mind). God bless. Clif does believe in God from what I gather.

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So we have a 100 b galaxies or so, but you think we are the only ones. REALLY, interesting. Read the bible again and u will find your answers. Better yet read it backwards. Lmao.

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Could light itself be the aether ?

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And everything else just hitches a ride on photons. 😜

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Halton Arp wrote “Seeing Red”, I think in the mid-eighties. He disproved the theory that redshift was caused by stars being farther away from the viewer. Anytime a theory is falsified, even one time, scientists are supposed to abandon that theory and revise it to match observations and predictability, for starters. Is this what happens in real life? No. Instead, the person or persons who falsify the theory get excommunicated from the science cult. Then, scientists usually find a mathematician to write some absurdly complex equation to attempt to patch up their broken theory. Then they smugly celebrate their own misperceived genius.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Such is the state of science today.

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But I thought we were supposed to get into the UFO stuff last summer? 🤣

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