Clif, I know you think it’s bogus but you should dive into all the evidence supporting biblical history. There’s so much out there that supports it and if you do some critical thinking it makes sense that the KM would’ve come to power utilizing demonic power. Giants as well are described in the Bible. It’s just a perspective worth looking at, because there’s more evidence of a Biblical history being covered up by the KM to be discredited than there is evidence of humans being created by aliens. If the Bible is true, (which I believe it is based on the scientific evidence that supports it alone) then calling on God and spreading his Word is the best way to wake up the masses to the evil of the KM and help them to understand that the satanic practices of pedophilia and sacrifice aren’t just some conspiracy, but that the KM is what’s controlling the world and has been allowed to by the demonic power they utilize.
I think it’s important to take an objective view to all sides of an issue, and while we KNOW that the KM is ruling the world, we have no way to convince the masses of this because it’s simply too outlandish to believe for normies. Christians on the other hand can see how this lines up with the biblical timeline and the prophecy in Revelations, and will understand that Baal worship is something that’s real and hasn’t stopped.
Religion and science should be married because science supports religion! The issue with science now is that it’s not true science, it’s cherry picked to support the dominant narrative and anything that doesn’t support that is swept under the rug.
The whole premise of the Old Testament and the creation story is one of the first great lies. If you read some Mauro Biglino or Paul Wallis it explains more. They created us in their image...The Elohim, which is not God. The Bible is not God- breathed. The Old Testament is history of the wars between the Elohim. That is why God seems so cruel, indecisive and angry... it's not The Christian God. The history is ripped off from old Sumer and other Ancient Civilizations.
IMO God NEVER seemed indecisive in the OT, and while there are times he may have appeared cruel and angry, it’s His right to do with His creation as He pleases, and “the wages of sin is death”. If you were an almighty god, and your creation disobeyed you, wouldn’t you be angry? Righteous anger is biblical.
In any case, if I’m choosing whether to believe in God, whose salvation grants me eternal life (or whose righteous anger will send me to hell if I don’t believe and follow Him) vs believing in the Elohim, where reality after death is unknown and doesn’t matter, I would rather play the safe bet and follow God. If I’m wrong about following God, there’s no risk. If I’m wrong about believing in the Elohim, I risk eternal damnation.
I don’t think it’s wrong to speculate about the possibility, but in any case, nothing comes from nothing. Whose to say the Elohim, if they are real, aren’t just a part of Gods plan?
To Believer & Carson Fischer it is so simple.... there is one Creator/Source he does not need any names, he Just Is. You can disagree about the bible, you have free will, as given to you by Source, to do so and that is Good. The REAL message is and will always be to Love yourself & others as we are all One & that will never change. Peace
If you want to be right with God..follow to words of the Christ above all others.
the Bible has been tampered with and distorted in both the OT and the NT.
Before the Council of Nisa in 360AD there were over a hundred books/Gospels written about Jesus.
Why only 22 made the cut? They gave the message that the Catholic Church /KM wanted taught. Most of it was rewritten to make it work for them. Like the KM always do they put in a middleman The Priest Bishops & a Popes.
They stand between you and God. But Gods truth is Esch and every person is his Loving creation and His Did put a piece of Himself in everyone.
If you really want God Listen to the still small voice with.
Heres an exercise I do daily when ever I read my Bible I first pray Father what do you want me to learn today? Then I open my Bible wherever His leads. I read THEN I ask if He would Explain it to me. That's when you hear the still small voice. The Voice that has been there all along.
I couldn't agree more. There are large parts of the New Testament that appear to be propaganda from the church fathers to justify its existence. I prefer the early Christian approach to emulate the life and follow the teachings of Jesus as described in the gospels, which were written sometime before the other materials that were largely used to justify the existence of the church. I also think there are other pre-church books that were excluded from most versions of the Bible that there are worth some consideration, like those found at the Dead Sea and Nag Hammadi. I also find the book of revelations interesting. I'm honestly surprised it was one of the ones that made the cut. If we agree that it is was good for the reformation to happen and all of the various churches to splinter off from the original Catholic Church, why should we reject the versions of Christianity that preceded the official church? Personally, I think Christians (meaning anyone who professes to follow Christ regardless of denomination) should probably stick together in this day and age.
Because the K. M. and other Alien Spiecies have in fact been DOMINANT on various portions of this Planet that we currently call EARTH for very very long periods of time, thje archiologic record is filled with confusion and with a very significant number of BLANK SPACES. If you read the Old Testament of the Christian Bible it to is FILLED WITH CONFUSION AND WITH VERY LARGE BLANK SPACES.
Clif is whispering an important piece of the TRUTH .
The whole truth cannot be found in the BIBLE as we know it.and it cannot be found in Archeology as constituted.
I see you as an honest seeker of truth, or at least honest listener.
Your comment seems to imply "truth about the facts and data and reality is irrelevant". One can choose to believe this or believe that, and it doesn't really matter if one idea is based on fact and the other on falsehood, or maybe both on falsehood. "I prefer that one!"
This seems to be the operating mode of a lot of people now, esp younger generations, many democrats, new agers, etc. "Manifest! Make it so by wanting it!"
I can choose the pleasant or preferable set of ideas, and it doesn't really matter if that idea is fact based or not; I just like it better, so it's ok to decide that way.
BUT WHAT IS THE REALITY?
I've spent my life inside the box of Christian beliefs; but are those beliefs based on a/the REAL God, or something the Jews made up for us in Babylon?
I certainly see both sides of the "just (as in justice) God" in the OT (Old Testament) vs "malevolent God...or something". But the question is, WHICH IS CORRECT? Or Any of the Above?
When Jesus referred to his father, did he have in mind the God/person WE do when we think of God in the OT?
The last few years, I've tried to do a "start over", look back to "the start" of humans and religion, see what matches and what doesn't. I'm about out of time; it's probably an impossible task, but educational.
Some non-Christian orthodox have the idea Jesus may have been thinking of a different "father" when he spoke of Him. I haven't seen any good foundations yet, but it's an interesting idea. Zoroastrianism, Thoth incarnations, reincarnation itself, are connecting ideas. I wish I could have started this 30 years ago, but even what I've so far learned would have been impossible without internet.
Why did the god of the old testament insist that his followers be circumcised? It seems that he wasn't satisfied with his own creation. Why did he make men with a foreskin and then insist that they cut it off? Was he admitting his own mistake like he does in Gen. 6, when he regrets and laments that he had made men (before he destroyed them in the flood)? The belief in the purity of the bible is the most outlandish religious superstition imaginable. It is a blight on the understanding and a log in the eye of many Christians. We can learn a lot from the bible and I believe God works positive outcomes from Satan's evil plans. I believe that Satan had a hand in organizing and writing the bible. I see the Satanic aspect of the OT and I don't think Paul completely understood Christianity, although he was making an honest attempt at it. Because he was an educated Jew, he overemphasized Puritanism which has led to a lot of misunderstanding about the intentions of Christ and what Christianity was supposed to have been. In the bible, the Gospel is shrouded within the thick bark of Hebrew puritanism. It's possible to read the bible for a thousand hours and not encounter the good news of the Gospel of Jesus Christ--which is the forgiveness of sins--which is an excuse for sinning. Those that understand the gospel are overwhelmed with joy because there is an excuse for sinning (which we all do). Without this excuse for sinning we would all be subject to the accusations of Satan before the throne of God. But Christ is the advocate of humanity before the thrown of God. There is no holy status within Christian practice.
Which ever way you look at it..circumcisum of baby boys is child abuse and mutilation PERIOD.....so says an "Intact" Englishman....same goes for Femail circumcisium.........ALL "ISUMS" are a KM/ Cabala construct as is COMMINISIM etc.
Thank you. God vs Satan is what it's all is about. It all started when Lucifer fell from above and has been ongoing since. This is truly an historic time in our lives. I am so excited and honored to be able to be living through it.
I agree wholeheartedly! Clif made excellent points regarding the lack of any real evidence for evolution, although my Hubby is really a hairy guy. : -}
Dr Michael Heiser points out the Hebrew word elohim just means "god", there is the one true God / Elohim of the Bible and there are the lessor pagan gods that are also called Elohim.
The Problem with the Bible, is it has suffered the same extensive damage that the Quran has for Islam and Muslims. Saudi Arabia destroyed all of the Teachings of the Prophet, and even shifted the place of his Birth from Petra in Jordan, to Saudi Arabia. All to serve the interests of Saudi Arabia. Persia appears to have done the same with a breakaway Sect. Most of the Bible has been similarly damaged with large amounts just not included, and other parts altered. Even one of the Major Platforms of Real Christianity - Reincarnation - was removed to replace it with the Egyptian Religion’s 3 Day “Resurrection “ the 3 days when Sirius dropped out of View below the horizon, which was such an important time marker for the Egyptians, and considered to be the Resurrection of Osiris. We really have been thoroughly messed around with for a very long time, and I have a bone to pick with the “good guys” out there, who have let this situation persist for so long, and at such a great cost to Humanity.I mean we are talking something totally different to the universal Balance of Opposites. Dark, light, Male, Female, Ying Yang, etc. Well the opposite of Good is Bad ! So What The Heck Heck is the Opposite of Evil ? Because to me, any opposite to it has been notably absent from This Planet for over 8,000 years Now, and to me, that failure to appear needs to have answers demanded of it. To say I’m extremely Pissed With it, is a serious Understatement. We need a holding to Account imho. 🤔
Oh yeah the bible is spot on scientifically; universe created in 6 days, earth 6000 yrs old, yada yada. The invisible friend in the clouds ( MY invisible friend, not yours or the other 4000 only mine. what poppycock ) folks: many will never give up because they BELIEVE, they don't care about KNOWING. And what do they believe? Well, you find very few converts in any religion, so they believe what the tribe believes, where they were born and raised. Not exactly an exhaustive investigation of probabilities, innit?
I don’t think you have a very accurate idea of Christianity or the Bible. No where does the Bible claim the worlds only 6000 years old, and I’m here reading into other possibilities, I just haven’t seen enough conclusive evidence to change my mind on the matter. Thank you for your input, that was very helpful to intellectual dialogue about the subject.
That may be true. Raised catholic will sour a boy, altar boy at that. More voodoo than the entire island of Haiti. I don't care what anyone believes, it's personal, I just can't handle the proselytizing, the money grabbing, the holier than thou hypocrisy, and pedophilia of organized religion.
Time - the biggest distortion of all. Assuming on average 25-year generations, where female conception usually occurs between ages 15-35, for you (and your siblings) ALONE to be here, in the year 1000 AD you had to have had 2.2 TRILLION great grandparents (Great ^41 Grandparents) alive long enough to reproduce your next set of great grandparents (Great ^40 Grandparents). Crazy? How about the year 0 AD (2122 years ago)? You and your siblings would had to have had 2.4e23 SEXTILLION great ^81 grandparents to be here today.
None of these figures even remotely square up with what consensus historians say are the total number of human beings that have populated for the earth across all "time", where their estimates are somewhere between 100 - 150 billion for ALL OF TIME. That TOTAL population number is 1/20th of the number of great ^41 grandparents you and your siblings alone had to have in the year 1000 AD to be reading this comment right now.
Looking at one's own family tree and distant lineages produces a bottleneck, where the same 41st great grandparent (as in your example) appears many times in many different lines of descent, this truth alone proves that evolution is a farce. If evolution were true, there would have been many, many more ancestors that they have pretended to be able to calculate. Just working on the ancestral lines of just one of my 10th great grandmothers, I identified over 2,300 distinct direct ancestors who were the descendants of Charlemagne. Not to mention some other noteworthy historical figures, such as Rollo 'The Dane', many times great grandparent.
That's fine, but not relevant to my point. If only 100-150 billion humans have ever populated the earth for all of time, according to the experts, how is it you have 20 times this many great grandparents living in say the years 985-1010 AD -> 2.2 Trillion. You can play games with incest, Casanovas, and having the same great 41st grandma and grandpa hundreds, even thousands of times over and it still doesn't impact the mathematical facts. You can even say all your 41st great grandmas had 10 babies each that all survived to reproductive age and produced all your 40th great grandparents and it will still only reduce the 2.2 trillion by a factor of 10, leaving you with 220 billion great grandparents, which is TWICE AS MANY people that have ever lived (according to the experts). And this is only 1000 years back. The further you go back, the more ludicrous it all becomes....
That is my point exactly. The math does not reflect reality, case in point. It never will and never has. They can project numbers all day long or how this furry creature might have eventually changed into this non-furry creature, but it does not reflect reality or the fossil record.
My career was in engineering and technology along with a lifelong passion for health and fitness. I have a degree in electrical engineering. I spent a number of years analyzing technology. so recently out of my passion for health anbd fitness I studied human biology and anotomy with the puropse of becomming a personal trainer. a picture began to emerge when I studied al the systems within the human body. it became blaringly obvious, the human body and life in genral was designed. The complexity of each of the sytems along with the interrlationships of these systems is a very complex design. As mentioned, this did not evolve but was designed and DNA plus other tools were used. As an engineer it just jumps out at you when analyzing biological systems.
We have to look at our limitations. we only see a narrow part of the spectrum. this is intentional. . We were designed for limited lifespans but I would guess there are beings out there with lifespans of eons. I would also guess that it would be foolish to think that they just left and have not come back. I wouls suggest that they have been here all along. Life on earth, specifically the humans, are an experiment.
I would also surmise that the civilization which built pyrimids all over the planet were the engineers. they were cone heads and they had very advanced technology. I would suggest that they were the ones who have been creating technology advancements.
Since they were masters of the art of biology I fear they may truly be behind the technology which is in the process of culling the herd.
Lastly, the area of research which may answer many questions is the study of what is consciosness.
My dad, who was an old doc (GP) and taught anatomy at the U of Wa (to avoid getting killed in WWII) ALWAYS asserted that the human body is a true MIRACLE. How it works, how everything syncs. It is. We are. WHAT A FUCKING RIDE!!! WOOOOHOOOO!!!
The idea that our species is nothing more than a science experiment is one of the most depressing things I can think of; it takes all of the uniqueness out of who we are as individuals and as a species. To me, the concept says we are nothing more than productive, long lasting Sea Monkeys, or pets that were kept long ago and then abandoned. I don't want to be a human Sea Monkey or the descendant of a random alien experiment. It's just too depressing and, in a way, demeaning.
Get over yourself/your species. We aint that special, unless being the most bat-shit crazy, murderous self-injuring creatures on earth is special. Now, we learn from Clif, there may be extenuating circumstances and we can hopefully unyoke from the evil prodding us thusly.
Be of good cheer - It can sometimes be helpful to be in remembrance that the human body and the blueprint provided by our DNA is not what makes us unique and special, as many recounted (and personally experienced) NDEs (near death experiences) attest to. If you care to also factor in the transcendent non-corporeal experiences shared by a multitude of historical and living humans, you have a pretty good case for our greater experience of aliveness/awareness occurring beyond and absent the physical. For my part, regardless of the origin of the bodies we have been given to inhabit, they are wonderfully made and worthy of appreciation for the service they give us while on this earthly journey.
Hey Clif- Have you read anything by Gregg Braden? He’s originally a geologist, and through tons of research, has come to the exact same conclusions as you. He even gives lectures about how there is concrete scientific evidence that our DNA was spliced together to create us. He has written numerous books, including “The God Code.” According to Braden, spelled out, in our DNA in ancient Hebrew, are the words,
“God Eternal Within The Body.”
No wonder the KM wants to erase and rewrite their own code in our bodies with the mRNA shots. Pure evil.
Goodness, what a lot of food for thought! But given the foundation of lies, cover up and manipulative narrative advertising we now, after two years of truly shocking tearing away of the veils, know, not just suspect, there HAS to be more in every other sphere. I loved Pat's comment and have to agree - no we ain't that great a species and if we're the alleged God given apex of the creation above all other creatures, we've never demonstrated that superiority consistently or lived up to it as far as I can see. A relief really, we can simply be one amongst others, if so and stop with the superiority mandate shtick I'm sure animals will appreciate this deflation.
Most refreshing, Clif. Exhilarating as being on the Rotor: that ride at Luna Park which spins madly as the floor drops out leaving you stuck to the walls in terror and delight.
We not only don't know what year it really is, we also don't know what and who the hell we are. Hilarious. Or do we? How to explain thinkers and feelers like Clif as well as we who've resisted the avalanche of BS in the past 2 years on the basis of morality?
The answer to this will be interesting.
All I ask is that I not be related to a Khazarian, please.
Obviously you’re an atheist so we will have a difference of opinion. I do however appreciate other subjects that you have made commentary on. Thank you.
Finally got around to it, and now I know where the influx of trolling started.
So this is it. This is what they fear, what trips their trigger. Aliens.
And the direction signs to this truth are easy to spot, everything we are forbidden to talk about (giant hominids etc). Just like a sci fi movie. How cliché.
Haven’t been on Twitter for awhile, but it seems the trolls haven’t upgraded their game. I guess you get what you pay for. And times must be tough. They are still w the mass postings that push identical opinions.
Newsflash, that only works for sheople looking for Asses to follow.
For this Vox Pop, the morning’s memo must have read, “We have an URGENT situation! A narrative needs switching immediately! Create and Like posts re God and Religion, and for crissakes, DON’T MENTION ALIENS OR REFER TO THEM POSITIVELY IN ANY WAY!”
Clif, I know you think it’s bogus but you should dive into all the evidence supporting biblical history. There’s so much out there that supports it and if you do some critical thinking it makes sense that the KM would’ve come to power utilizing demonic power. Giants as well are described in the Bible. It’s just a perspective worth looking at, because there’s more evidence of a Biblical history being covered up by the KM to be discredited than there is evidence of humans being created by aliens. If the Bible is true, (which I believe it is based on the scientific evidence that supports it alone) then calling on God and spreading his Word is the best way to wake up the masses to the evil of the KM and help them to understand that the satanic practices of pedophilia and sacrifice aren’t just some conspiracy, but that the KM is what’s controlling the world and has been allowed to by the demonic power they utilize.
I think it’s important to take an objective view to all sides of an issue, and while we KNOW that the KM is ruling the world, we have no way to convince the masses of this because it’s simply too outlandish to believe for normies. Christians on the other hand can see how this lines up with the biblical timeline and the prophecy in Revelations, and will understand that Baal worship is something that’s real and hasn’t stopped.
Religion and science should be married because science supports religion! The issue with science now is that it’s not true science, it’s cherry picked to support the dominant narrative and anything that doesn’t support that is swept under the rug.
The whole premise of the Old Testament and the creation story is one of the first great lies. If you read some Mauro Biglino or Paul Wallis it explains more. They created us in their image...The Elohim, which is not God. The Bible is not God- breathed. The Old Testament is history of the wars between the Elohim. That is why God seems so cruel, indecisive and angry... it's not The Christian God. The history is ripped off from old Sumer and other Ancient Civilizations.
I’ll have to look into Mauro Biglino more.
IMO God NEVER seemed indecisive in the OT, and while there are times he may have appeared cruel and angry, it’s His right to do with His creation as He pleases, and “the wages of sin is death”. If you were an almighty god, and your creation disobeyed you, wouldn’t you be angry? Righteous anger is biblical.
In any case, if I’m choosing whether to believe in God, whose salvation grants me eternal life (or whose righteous anger will send me to hell if I don’t believe and follow Him) vs believing in the Elohim, where reality after death is unknown and doesn’t matter, I would rather play the safe bet and follow God. If I’m wrong about following God, there’s no risk. If I’m wrong about believing in the Elohim, I risk eternal damnation.
I don’t think it’s wrong to speculate about the possibility, but in any case, nothing comes from nothing. Whose to say the Elohim, if they are real, aren’t just a part of Gods plan?
To Believer & Carson Fischer it is so simple.... there is one Creator/Source he does not need any names, he Just Is. You can disagree about the bible, you have free will, as given to you by Source, to do so and that is Good. The REAL message is and will always be to Love yourself & others as we are all One & that will never change. Peace
Yes we probably are all one...one consciousness.
If you want to be right with God..follow to words of the Christ above all others.
the Bible has been tampered with and distorted in both the OT and the NT.
Before the Council of Nisa in 360AD there were over a hundred books/Gospels written about Jesus.
Why only 22 made the cut? They gave the message that the Catholic Church /KM wanted taught. Most of it was rewritten to make it work for them. Like the KM always do they put in a middleman The Priest Bishops & a Popes.
They stand between you and God. But Gods truth is Esch and every person is his Loving creation and His Did put a piece of Himself in everyone.
If you really want God Listen to the still small voice with.
Heres an exercise I do daily when ever I read my Bible I first pray Father what do you want me to learn today? Then I open my Bible wherever His leads. I read THEN I ask if He would Explain it to me. That's when you hear the still small voice. The Voice that has been there all along.
I couldn't agree more. There are large parts of the New Testament that appear to be propaganda from the church fathers to justify its existence. I prefer the early Christian approach to emulate the life and follow the teachings of Jesus as described in the gospels, which were written sometime before the other materials that were largely used to justify the existence of the church. I also think there are other pre-church books that were excluded from most versions of the Bible that there are worth some consideration, like those found at the Dead Sea and Nag Hammadi. I also find the book of revelations interesting. I'm honestly surprised it was one of the ones that made the cut. If we agree that it is was good for the reformation to happen and all of the various churches to splinter off from the original Catholic Church, why should we reject the versions of Christianity that preceded the official church? Personally, I think Christians (meaning anyone who professes to follow Christ regardless of denomination) should probably stick together in this day and age.
I agree with the still, small voice.
I want to know the truth but everyone deserves a right to their own journey in their own time.
Because the K. M. and other Alien Spiecies have in fact been DOMINANT on various portions of this Planet that we currently call EARTH for very very long periods of time, thje archiologic record is filled with confusion and with a very significant number of BLANK SPACES. If you read the Old Testament of the Christian Bible it to is FILLED WITH CONFUSION AND WITH VERY LARGE BLANK SPACES.
Clif is whispering an important piece of the TRUTH .
The whole truth cannot be found in the BIBLE as we know it.and it cannot be found in Archeology as constituted.
I see you as an honest seeker of truth, or at least honest listener.
Your comment seems to imply "truth about the facts and data and reality is irrelevant". One can choose to believe this or believe that, and it doesn't really matter if one idea is based on fact and the other on falsehood, or maybe both on falsehood. "I prefer that one!"
This seems to be the operating mode of a lot of people now, esp younger generations, many democrats, new agers, etc. "Manifest! Make it so by wanting it!"
I can choose the pleasant or preferable set of ideas, and it doesn't really matter if that idea is fact based or not; I just like it better, so it's ok to decide that way.
BUT WHAT IS THE REALITY?
I've spent my life inside the box of Christian beliefs; but are those beliefs based on a/the REAL God, or something the Jews made up for us in Babylon?
I certainly see both sides of the "just (as in justice) God" in the OT (Old Testament) vs "malevolent God...or something". But the question is, WHICH IS CORRECT? Or Any of the Above?
When Jesus referred to his father, did he have in mind the God/person WE do when we think of God in the OT?
The last few years, I've tried to do a "start over", look back to "the start" of humans and religion, see what matches and what doesn't. I'm about out of time; it's probably an impossible task, but educational.
Some non-Christian orthodox have the idea Jesus may have been thinking of a different "father" when he spoke of Him. I haven't seen any good foundations yet, but it's an interesting idea. Zoroastrianism, Thoth incarnations, reincarnation itself, are connecting ideas. I wish I could have started this 30 years ago, but even what I've so far learned would have been impossible without internet.
"I see through a glass darkly..."
Why did the god of the old testament insist that his followers be circumcised? It seems that he wasn't satisfied with his own creation. Why did he make men with a foreskin and then insist that they cut it off? Was he admitting his own mistake like he does in Gen. 6, when he regrets and laments that he had made men (before he destroyed them in the flood)? The belief in the purity of the bible is the most outlandish religious superstition imaginable. It is a blight on the understanding and a log in the eye of many Christians. We can learn a lot from the bible and I believe God works positive outcomes from Satan's evil plans. I believe that Satan had a hand in organizing and writing the bible. I see the Satanic aspect of the OT and I don't think Paul completely understood Christianity, although he was making an honest attempt at it. Because he was an educated Jew, he overemphasized Puritanism which has led to a lot of misunderstanding about the intentions of Christ and what Christianity was supposed to have been. In the bible, the Gospel is shrouded within the thick bark of Hebrew puritanism. It's possible to read the bible for a thousand hours and not encounter the good news of the Gospel of Jesus Christ--which is the forgiveness of sins--which is an excuse for sinning. Those that understand the gospel are overwhelmed with joy because there is an excuse for sinning (which we all do). Without this excuse for sinning we would all be subject to the accusations of Satan before the throne of God. But Christ is the advocate of humanity before the thrown of God. There is no holy status within Christian practice.
Which ever way you look at it..circumcisum of baby boys is child abuse and mutilation PERIOD.....so says an "Intact" Englishman....same goes for Femail circumcisium.........ALL "ISUMS" are a KM/ Cabala construct as is COMMINISIM etc.
Thank you. God vs Satan is what it's all is about. It all started when Lucifer fell from above and has been ongoing since. This is truly an historic time in our lives. I am so excited and honored to be able to be living through it.
I agree wholeheartedly! Clif made excellent points regarding the lack of any real evidence for evolution, although my Hubby is really a hairy guy. : -}
Dr Michael Heiser points out the Hebrew word elohim just means "god", there is the one true God / Elohim of the Bible and there are the lessor pagan gods that are also called Elohim.
The Problem with the Bible, is it has suffered the same extensive damage that the Quran has for Islam and Muslims. Saudi Arabia destroyed all of the Teachings of the Prophet, and even shifted the place of his Birth from Petra in Jordan, to Saudi Arabia. All to serve the interests of Saudi Arabia. Persia appears to have done the same with a breakaway Sect. Most of the Bible has been similarly damaged with large amounts just not included, and other parts altered. Even one of the Major Platforms of Real Christianity - Reincarnation - was removed to replace it with the Egyptian Religion’s 3 Day “Resurrection “ the 3 days when Sirius dropped out of View below the horizon, which was such an important time marker for the Egyptians, and considered to be the Resurrection of Osiris. We really have been thoroughly messed around with for a very long time, and I have a bone to pick with the “good guys” out there, who have let this situation persist for so long, and at such a great cost to Humanity.I mean we are talking something totally different to the universal Balance of Opposites. Dark, light, Male, Female, Ying Yang, etc. Well the opposite of Good is Bad ! So What The Heck Heck is the Opposite of Evil ? Because to me, any opposite to it has been notably absent from This Planet for over 8,000 years Now, and to me, that failure to appear needs to have answers demanded of it. To say I’m extremely Pissed With it, is a serious Understatement. We need a holding to Account imho. 🤔
Oh yeah the bible is spot on scientifically; universe created in 6 days, earth 6000 yrs old, yada yada. The invisible friend in the clouds ( MY invisible friend, not yours or the other 4000 only mine. what poppycock ) folks: many will never give up because they BELIEVE, they don't care about KNOWING. And what do they believe? Well, you find very few converts in any religion, so they believe what the tribe believes, where they were born and raised. Not exactly an exhaustive investigation of probabilities, innit?
I don’t think you have a very accurate idea of Christianity or the Bible. No where does the Bible claim the worlds only 6000 years old, and I’m here reading into other possibilities, I just haven’t seen enough conclusive evidence to change my mind on the matter. Thank you for your input, that was very helpful to intellectual dialogue about the subject.
That may be true. Raised catholic will sour a boy, altar boy at that. More voodoo than the entire island of Haiti. I don't care what anyone believes, it's personal, I just can't handle the proselytizing, the money grabbing, the holier than thou hypocrisy, and pedophilia of organized religion.
Individual spirituality- Okey doke.
100% agree. Religion is screwed up, faith is not.
Time - the biggest distortion of all. Assuming on average 25-year generations, where female conception usually occurs between ages 15-35, for you (and your siblings) ALONE to be here, in the year 1000 AD you had to have had 2.2 TRILLION great grandparents (Great ^41 Grandparents) alive long enough to reproduce your next set of great grandparents (Great ^40 Grandparents). Crazy? How about the year 0 AD (2122 years ago)? You and your siblings would had to have had 2.4e23 SEXTILLION great ^81 grandparents to be here today.
None of these figures even remotely square up with what consensus historians say are the total number of human beings that have populated for the earth across all "time", where their estimates are somewhere between 100 - 150 billion for ALL OF TIME. That TOTAL population number is 1/20th of the number of great ^41 grandparents you and your siblings alone had to have in the year 1000 AD to be reading this comment right now.
Looking at one's own family tree and distant lineages produces a bottleneck, where the same 41st great grandparent (as in your example) appears many times in many different lines of descent, this truth alone proves that evolution is a farce. If evolution were true, there would have been many, many more ancestors that they have pretended to be able to calculate. Just working on the ancestral lines of just one of my 10th great grandmothers, I identified over 2,300 distinct direct ancestors who were the descendants of Charlemagne. Not to mention some other noteworthy historical figures, such as Rollo 'The Dane', many times great grandparent.
That's fine, but not relevant to my point. If only 100-150 billion humans have ever populated the earth for all of time, according to the experts, how is it you have 20 times this many great grandparents living in say the years 985-1010 AD -> 2.2 Trillion. You can play games with incest, Casanovas, and having the same great 41st grandma and grandpa hundreds, even thousands of times over and it still doesn't impact the mathematical facts. You can even say all your 41st great grandmas had 10 babies each that all survived to reproductive age and produced all your 40th great grandparents and it will still only reduce the 2.2 trillion by a factor of 10, leaving you with 220 billion great grandparents, which is TWICE AS MANY people that have ever lived (according to the experts). And this is only 1000 years back. The further you go back, the more ludicrous it all becomes....
That is my point exactly. The math does not reflect reality, case in point. It never will and never has. They can project numbers all day long or how this furry creature might have eventually changed into this non-furry creature, but it does not reflect reality or the fossil record.
My career was in engineering and technology along with a lifelong passion for health and fitness. I have a degree in electrical engineering. I spent a number of years analyzing technology. so recently out of my passion for health anbd fitness I studied human biology and anotomy with the puropse of becomming a personal trainer. a picture began to emerge when I studied al the systems within the human body. it became blaringly obvious, the human body and life in genral was designed. The complexity of each of the sytems along with the interrlationships of these systems is a very complex design. As mentioned, this did not evolve but was designed and DNA plus other tools were used. As an engineer it just jumps out at you when analyzing biological systems.
We have to look at our limitations. we only see a narrow part of the spectrum. this is intentional. . We were designed for limited lifespans but I would guess there are beings out there with lifespans of eons. I would also guess that it would be foolish to think that they just left and have not come back. I wouls suggest that they have been here all along. Life on earth, specifically the humans, are an experiment.
I would also surmise that the civilization which built pyrimids all over the planet were the engineers. they were cone heads and they had very advanced technology. I would suggest that they were the ones who have been creating technology advancements.
Since they were masters of the art of biology I fear they may truly be behind the technology which is in the process of culling the herd.
Lastly, the area of research which may answer many questions is the study of what is consciosness.
My dad, who was an old doc (GP) and taught anatomy at the U of Wa (to avoid getting killed in WWII) ALWAYS asserted that the human body is a true MIRACLE. How it works, how everything syncs. It is. We are. WHAT A FUCKING RIDE!!! WOOOOHOOOO!!!
Wow! Another great one clif!!! Many thanks, and have a good day! I love you!
The idea that our species is nothing more than a science experiment is one of the most depressing things I can think of; it takes all of the uniqueness out of who we are as individuals and as a species. To me, the concept says we are nothing more than productive, long lasting Sea Monkeys, or pets that were kept long ago and then abandoned. I don't want to be a human Sea Monkey or the descendant of a random alien experiment. It's just too depressing and, in a way, demeaning.
Get over yourself/your species. We aint that special, unless being the most bat-shit crazy, murderous self-injuring creatures on earth is special. Now, we learn from Clif, there may be extenuating circumstances and we can hopefully unyoke from the evil prodding us thusly.
Be of good cheer - It can sometimes be helpful to be in remembrance that the human body and the blueprint provided by our DNA is not what makes us unique and special, as many recounted (and personally experienced) NDEs (near death experiences) attest to. If you care to also factor in the transcendent non-corporeal experiences shared by a multitude of historical and living humans, you have a pretty good case for our greater experience of aliveness/awareness occurring beyond and absent the physical. For my part, regardless of the origin of the bodies we have been given to inhabit, they are wonderfully made and worthy of appreciation for the service they give us while on this earthly journey.
Not saying it's true... but you would rather believe a pleasant untruth than a bad truth?
Most would.
Slap Damm. Absolutely great writing Clif. What else could be said. Thanks.
Humans were genetically engineered in a Lab on Mars more than 300k yrs ago
Seriously, I had a dream about coming from Mars, living on Earth and then going to Venus because Earth had turned to salt.
This is some crazy, but interesting stuff Clif High! Something to think about
Want to irritate others? Tell them we are GMO Beings. laughing... Priceless.
Love it :---)
Hey Clif- Have you read anything by Gregg Braden? He’s originally a geologist, and through tons of research, has come to the exact same conclusions as you. He even gives lectures about how there is concrete scientific evidence that our DNA was spliced together to create us. He has written numerous books, including “The God Code.” According to Braden, spelled out, in our DNA in ancient Hebrew, are the words,
“God Eternal Within The Body.”
No wonder the KM wants to erase and rewrite their own code in our bodies with the mRNA shots. Pure evil.
Question?
If humans evolved from monkeys and apes, then why are there still monkeys and apes ?
Not In His Image by John Lamb Lash
Great Book. JLL is awesome. Archon proxies/KM
yep, great time to be alive
Go to nemeta, learn everything, I love JLL & Clif
https://youtu.be/Op0pIY-QsRc
have watched this, read the book, study JLL's work on nemeta.org, it meshes with clif's wisdom, you will never regret it
Goodness, what a lot of food for thought! But given the foundation of lies, cover up and manipulative narrative advertising we now, after two years of truly shocking tearing away of the veils, know, not just suspect, there HAS to be more in every other sphere. I loved Pat's comment and have to agree - no we ain't that great a species and if we're the alleged God given apex of the creation above all other creatures, we've never demonstrated that superiority consistently or lived up to it as far as I can see. A relief really, we can simply be one amongst others, if so and stop with the superiority mandate shtick I'm sure animals will appreciate this deflation.
Most refreshing, Clif. Exhilarating as being on the Rotor: that ride at Luna Park which spins madly as the floor drops out leaving you stuck to the walls in terror and delight.
We not only don't know what year it really is, we also don't know what and who the hell we are. Hilarious. Or do we? How to explain thinkers and feelers like Clif as well as we who've resisted the avalanche of BS in the past 2 years on the basis of morality?
The answer to this will be interesting.
All I ask is that I not be related to a Khazarian, please.
Obviously you’re an atheist so we will have a difference of opinion. I do however appreciate other subjects that you have made commentary on. Thank you.
Visibilia ex invisibilibus
Fun, factual read.
Finally got around to it, and now I know where the influx of trolling started.
So this is it. This is what they fear, what trips their trigger. Aliens.
And the direction signs to this truth are easy to spot, everything we are forbidden to talk about (giant hominids etc). Just like a sci fi movie. How cliché.
Haven’t been on Twitter for awhile, but it seems the trolls haven’t upgraded their game. I guess you get what you pay for. And times must be tough. They are still w the mass postings that push identical opinions.
Newsflash, that only works for sheople looking for Asses to follow.
For this Vox Pop, the morning’s memo must have read, “We have an URGENT situation! A narrative needs switching immediately! Create and Like posts re God and Religion, and for crissakes, DON’T MENTION ALIENS OR REFER TO THEM POSITIVELY IN ANY WAY!”