I've been off seed oils, carbs, and sugar for five years now and everything Cliff just said is absolutely true!! I'm older than Cliff and I've never felt healthier!
Same here;) and forever in the sun. I use to say I’m solar powered;) I live in sunny Florida and when they closed the beach here during that stupid event I went out and bought a bike and haven’t stopped biking since. Interesting about the sun on your torso bc I get a lot of it on my neck while biking🙌🏻
Me too more or less, but Cliffy had me baking bread. I'm good at baking bread. I spent a winter in a house on the Atlantic in Cape Breton and baked bread all winter. I cycled there and I weighed 290lbs when I got back on my bicycle to ride home. (Ottawa) 230 is a nice weight for me. My poor bicycle.
I can whip up baguettes from scratch without a recipe. I was doing that and I gained about 20 lbs, it happened so fast. Off the baguettes, it's going away.
I haven't listened to Clif yet, sound not working for some reason. I was just listening to music. *shrug* On it.
I love making nachos. I've been on ~keto for about 10 years, 80% of the good things that I cook are now off my diet. This is no fun but I'm a lot healthier.
So... no more nachos, right? Bummer... I really like the the tortilla chips, but I guess even organic corn oil (heated too) is toxic...
I am in Tucson, and do get out in the sun for around 15 mins max... 3-5X/week... I tan a little, but the sun DOES really burn... so maybe Clif has a point...
I think I might try this, lose the oils, even olive oil... going to butter or bacon fat might be a good thing... better taste too... I wonder if cooking (not supplementing) with EV coconut oil is ok, since I just bought a big jug of it... ?
I also wonder if taking some Zeolite would help the process too... low dose...
Damn, I just bought THREE bags of tortilla chips too! (Schit!) 😱
Clif is the best... but is not infallable at all... I still need to do more homework... but... this is interesting:
Olive oil is fine, you just shouldn't fry with it. I'd hate to give up olive oil. I didn't know that until today but it has solids in it and it burns, so I never fried with it anyway. Same goes for coconut oil. I actually did fry with that occasionally, I won't anymore.
I've known about seed oils for quite a while. I don't eat that crap. I also never go to restaurants, I like to cook and I like to know what I'm eating. Besides, I can make it better than they can most of the time.
I thought coconut oil was fine for frying, which I do almost never... I only saute stuff in a pan, which is pretty low heat, I think... I think the EV coconut oil is OK for that... I read that refined coconut oil is better for frying, as it has a higher smoke temp...
I knew seed oils were bad... but still downed the tortilla chips... (fool)... I work out pretty hard and often for a 66 yr old... but lately have noticed a "baby bump" that should not be there, given my otherwise pretty healthy diet and workouts... so I'll try something different. Probably give away the chips... probably... maybe... 😕
I just purchased food grade coconut oil to try. But the coconut is a seed as well. I heard that bacon fat has harmful nitrates. Could have been propaghanda from the medical community to steer us away from the good fats.
You have to know where you’re buying your bacon and meats... never from a grocery store. I buy my bacon from a very reputable store in Ft Laudedale( Wild Fork), no nitrates, no sugar. Most bacon have added sugar.
I think after reading about it, coconut oil is not so bad, IF it is used sparingly for cooking, certainly better than canola spray... and yes, I would think that bacon DOES contain nitrates, but this article may be useful:
I think I will go abck to bacon... it's been many years!
And... I'm thinking about using un-hydrogenated LARD... if I can find it... seems it is not nearly as bad as it sounds!!! And far better than seed oils!!
Hey, that's great to hear! I'm sure it is keeping you clean of toxins/heavy metals... not sure if you need it daily, but if it "ain't broke"... eh? What brand and what dose? I have the green jug Zeo Health "Pure"powder stuff... and some "Pure Body Extra" spray.
I tried it, took too much, and took colloidal silver... AND Ivermectin... and I had a nasty detox reaction... but I will do only Zeolite next time... I think I'll cycle it, maybe use for the first week of the month... or maybe low dose daily after trying to clean myself out more aggressively for a while... not sure what's best...
Do you get pasture raised/organic eggs... or is that unnecessary? I have been buying Trader Joe's organic brown eggs, still a bit less than $5...
BTW: I only use Ezekiel bread, but I don't find it to be very tasty... it IS much better when toasted, even lightly. I do really like cheese, but try to keep that to mozzarella... I assume it is not very good for me tho... antibiotics and hormones... damn...
I eat a fair amount of organic oatmeal... maple syrup to sweeten... oat milk...
There's also this thing called a glycemic index.... Things that are high on the glycemic index convert to fat much faster than things that are lower on the glycemic index. Pretty sure that baguettes are high on the glycemic index :-)
LOL! I'm pretty sure they are too. One thing I've noticed is that when you brush aside all the medical bull is that French Cooking is largely pretty healthy stuff.
Then what the hell kind of oil does one use to cook with? I thought avacado was fine until I listened to this. Right now my standard cooking base is a dolup of avacado oil, a little bit of Amish butter, and slat and pepper. I know coconut oil is poison if it gets heated beyond a very low temperature (compared to other oils)... So what do we use? Just water? It'll burn your food...
Yes, I do! Look up Dr. Eric Berg online. That's where I got my first info on this way of eating. He has hundreds of videos and is very informative. It's called the "keto" diet, but it's just a healthy way of eating! He explains everything in detail! Good luck!
I don't think that matters; his MEDICAL info is sound. I've watched a bunch of his stuff (have a medical background of sorts) and have found very little I take exception to.
If you like to read, and dig deep -- Gary Taubes wrote the most FANTASTIC book called "Good Calories, Bad Calories." (sheesh, a decade ago now?) Amazingly reffed (a couple HUNDRED pages of refs, I vaguely remember) and SO well written. (Gary won the ... I forget what it's called -- Tech Writer? No, Science Writer of the Year, like, FOUR times in a row (then recused himself); from the... oh hell, I used to BE a tech writer, can't even REMEMBER the name of the professional org -- but his writing is AMAZING!!
Anyway -- amazing fantastic EYE-opening book! He ALSO did a second "popularizer" book version for normal people a few years later, all the info with a LOT less of the medical/reference material... I finished "Good Calories, Bad Calories" the minute it came out -- and IMMEDIATELY went back to page 1 and reread the whole thing! VERY surprising info...
I read an article about how since we are closely related to monkeys who eat almost all fruit, that our bodies are able to digest fruit. I love fruit, it’s my candy and I don’t want to stop 😅
Since you’ve just started on this, I suggest you research everywhere you can. You will undertand with time. I saw on another comment you are following Dr. Berg so you are good
Always amazed! Always thankful for the education! I've lost 30+ pounds this last winter, (Thanksgiving, Christmas, pies, cakes, Hollidays) wondered why, now I know, been using Lard, Bacon grease, Butter for the last year, not because I knew this, but because I didn't like all the price increases on cooking oils. Lard, Butter and Bacon were cheaper. Thanks Again Mister High
I stopped eating industrial seed oils about 4 years ago. I also stopped all plant foods. I am a carnivore and benefit greatly from it. I'm glad to hear Cliffs info on seed oils. They have only damaged human kind.
Carnivore here too🙌🏻 I weight 100 pounds and eat lots of fat. I put a teaspoon of butter in my morning coffee and eat one meal a day. I never count calories.
OMAD (one meal a day) means no snacking, nothing until I sit down to eat, usually late at night. I’ve been doing this since I was 13 years old not knowing anything about nutrition back then. My energy is very high with an empty stomach. Once I’m ready to eat it’s usually steaks, fish, eggs...I don’t eat vegetables and no carbs. I was never crazy about fruits so knowing that fruits are pure sugar it’s easy for me. One thing I will not go without is my daily glass of red wine;)🍷
I'm mostly a carnivore lately. I do try to eat some vegetables though.
I've been off seed oils a little more than 4 years, 5 or 6. If I fry anything, I'll use bacon grease if I have any but I generally use lard.
Talked to my butcher about that. He has started selling lard. Great guy, just bought the business, the old butcher was a bit morose most of the time and always in too much of a rush to give you decent service.
I am so glad that I listened to this. I am taking my obese husband off of seed oils immediately. This has given me hope. We are older and I am tired of doing all of the chores. I need him to transform into a helper for me. Thank you so much!
I'm intereseted to know why you think it's not healthy. The few sites I found that recommended against it recommended canola oil. That tells me right away that they're shills for Big Ag and their mass produced poisonous products.
Coconut also has too low a 'damage' temperature to cook with! Use butter. You can also pretty easily make ghee from butter -- that last and last out on the country and does NOT smoke or burn at normal cooking temps. Got a Crockpot? Really easy to make ghee. I use Kerry Gold butter (only butter I use).
Great info Cliff! Love all your posts, even the ones I have to put on my waders and try not to have brain blow out! Would like to know if coconut oil is OK for cooking? That's what I've been using. Thanks dude, you're oustanding!
It's expensive though, at least it is in Canada. I cook with lard or bacon grease. I have avocado oil. I eat olive oil, I love a good olive oil, but I don't fry things in it, too many solids, and now I know, thank you Cliffy, that there are other reasons.
I also store ghee, clarified butter. Buy it from Indian shops, don't get the vegetable stuff, it's foul. I don't use it though. It keeps, and I keep it with my anti-holodomor kit. Mind you there is rice and flour in there as well.
I get my meat from Butcher Box -- grass-fed, grass-finished, comes frozen... I have a sous vide machine so I chuck it in and let it cook! I get the custom box (prefer sirloins to ribeyes, chicken breast to whole chicken, and so on: can pick and choose what I want in the box) every two months. YUMMY meats!!
BTW, rumor has it (somewhat credible source) monsanto or representatives of monsanto are approaching crop dusters. Trying to recruit them to spray stuff with MRNA in it on water, lands, crops etc...just a rumor until I get the evidence I'm asking for...
Before I left the city I used to go to this normie bar sometimes on my way home, it was just down the street. I'd get mad at the normies all the time, they're so stupid.
Last time I went in there, the bartender looked at me... "I'll be good" He gives me a beer.
Sitting at the bar I asked the fellows beside me what they did, I always do that, you can learn things from people.
I have been wondering the same thing about sesame seed oil on the skin.... I have been thinking that a lot of our trouble is coming from using oils packaged in plastic, whether for cooking or on the body or for that matter lotions and creams. Glass only.... time to go back to old school... they really did a number on us! I told my husband months ago that I want to make some Ghee.. not even interested in buying it, just make it myself and use cheesecloth to remove the milk solids.
I have a hilal (Arab) store a block away. They sell ghee. But I noticed Walmart sells the same brand as them, half the price. It is hard to get out of the jar though. I only store in glass now too. And I've started using magnesium lotion on skin. Very helpful stuff, actually better than taking a mg supplement.
Interesting! Would like to hear more about that magnesium lotion.... I learned from a Hindu friend (a Brahmin) that it is very easy to make your own Ghee which remains liquid (never solid) and can actually last on the kitchen counter for years without ever going rancid. Melt the butter, usually a pound VERY slowly on VERY low heat as it should not burn as the chemistry will be altered. Once melted,sieve out the milk solids with cheesecloth and then put it in a jar on the counter. Although he didn't specify, I assumed unsalted butter. Maybe Clif has clarified butter method?
You can try putting it in a pot and putting it in the oven on it's lowest setting. Surround heat rather than bottom heat.
I haven't done that myself, it just occurs to me. I think next time I see butter on sale I'll try it. I usually buy it from an Indian store as 'cow' ghee.
Look up making ghee is a Crockpot -- WAY easy and no mess... you do it on low heat, and then skim the milk solids off the top. (Or is it skim the melted ghee and leave the milk solids at the bottom? Sorry, it's been so long I don't remember...) You CAN do it in a deep frying pan... Crockpot is easy...
Coconut oil is EXCELLENT on skin! I use MCT Oil (medium chain triglyceride) -- it's refined coconut oil -- so it's liquid all the time... Superb as a moisturizer! (I put a drop of jasmine essential oil in a small jar with the MCT oil and -- oh! Just lovely!) I use food grade though -- no extra 'stuff' in it!
Do some research on coconut oil...I used it a lot in the past...I stoppeed using ghee, I simply use the fat from bacon. It sits in my airfryer and if not I use butter, lots of it;)
I remember in my youth, it was always butter! I started using butter again recently and realized how much I missed the delicious flavor. Is that bad too? I hope not because I want to make strawberry rhubarb pound cake and it calls for a boatload of butter!
Butter is very very good for you. I drink a pot of coffee in the morning and every cup has a tablespoon of butter in it just to consume it. Cream too. I actually like black coffee, heh.
Drink it black, the cream and butter nullify the polyphenols Read my post taht disappeared, then watch the video I ppost below. . Sorry but I disagree with the point of view Clif has here. First, olive is not a seed oil, it is the olive fruit that is pressed, not the pit. Canola oil is garbage, it as GMO product of Rapeseed oil. In India Rapeseed oil was used for centuries by the poor classes with no major ill effects. The small local peddlers squeezed the rape seed fresh and it was sold in the street markets for many generations. But Big Pharma saw a huge market in India for their toxic oil products, so they had the media there demonize rape seed oil and prohibit it's street manufacture and sale, and substituted their Pharma garbage for instead. Diabetes on a mass scale resulted from the processed Omega 6 oils. Sesame Oil and Olive oil are both super good for you (organic, cold pressed of course). So is coconut and Perilla oil, used in Korea, sesame and perilla oils and olive oil. coconut oil have been used for thousands of years with no known health peril. They are all loaded with polyphenols, as is dark chocolate ('bitter' bakers chocolate, not dutched or processed with alkali) red wine and coffee, all are super foods loaded with polyphenols which are like human health catnip. Enter Dr Gundry in the equation. What Clif is saying is partly true, processed oils are toxic trans fat Omega 6 garbage. Dr Gundry has solved the major mysteries of both food and oils. His interview on the Hallmark Channel 7-8 years ago gives a great overview of it. Dr Gundry was head of the Vegetarian (Seventh Day Adventists) Loma Linda Heart Institute in L.A. One day a biker guy showed up for a heart bypass. Gundry was his last resort, his previous cardiologist said his arteries were so bad he wouldn't survive the surgery. Gundry initially agreed with that, but the biker said he had been on a special diet and wanted a new work up. Lo and behold the biker's mushy arteries had regenerated 50% on his diet. This intriuged Gundry because he had never seen such a restoration of damaged arteries or general health before. Until Big Ed Gundry was an elite cardiologist, (awards, inventions, able to do baby heart transplants, ect) but otherwise a standard high end physician. Big Ed made him look at food with new eyes. he investigated Big Ed's 6 month diet that healed 50% of his arterial damage. He discovered that the berries that Big Ed had eaten a lot of were loaded with polyphenols, and Ed had also been taking a number of vitamin and herb supplements. Gundry did a deep dive on all of it. He had been a research doctor at NIH for 2 years before deciding to become a cardiologist. What he discovered was two fold. First our gut bacteria is the key to everything about your health. Humans, mammals and even bugs don't digest our foods, our gut bacteria does it for us, our stomach acid mostly just breaks it down for them. That led to a major finding. New World Foods vs Old World foods, the two are night and day, Humans evolved in Africa, Asia and Europe, but NO ONE evolved in the Americas. All plants make poisons to survive against bugs and mammals, those plant poisons are called lectins. Humans in the three continents evolved with those Old World plants over gazillions of years and we became symbiotoic with their poisons, in other words our gut bacteria is immune to the Old World human diet plants. There are two exceptions to that, grasses/(grains) and beans/(legumes) which are new to our gut and very difficult to digest as they are foreign (poisonous) lectins to out ancient gut biome, it cannot handle them well. When processed correctly, (poisons defused or lowered by peeling, de-seeding or high temp cooking, and/or by fermentation) we can semi-digest them, but still with some side effects. It is the New World foods and garbage oils that cause the massive systemic inflammation that causes most of the diseases we suffer from. New World/foreign Lectins that are not defused enough in New World foods (and some chemicals and medicines) poke microscopic holes in your intestinal lining. It a problem most people suffer from, the name for it is 'leaky gut' syndrome. It is caused by toxic (foreign) lectins, chemicals, and Nsaid pain killers. Your intestinal lining is only ONE cell wall thick, think about that. Your intestines' ONE cell thick lining is held together by something called 'tight bonds'. Foreign (New World) lectins eat away at, and degrade those tight bonds by penetrating them with microscopic holes, and your gut contents then start to leak into your body cavity. This is where all hell breaks loose. Inflammation from undigested food particles, poop particles, and even our friendly gut bacteria become foreign invaders wreaking havoc once inside the body cavity. They usually go for the joints quickly and then every (and any) other organ becomes fair game for inflammation from the ongoing, constant microbial attack. That is the nutshell overview. Another detail is that humans are indeed tree animals. We don't have the multiple stomachs to digest grasses (cows have three stomachs, some herbivores have up to five stomach compartments). This is because grains are monocots, a single leaf plant. Humans were evolved to eat Dicots, which are two leafed plants, which are easier to digest than the tough fibers in grasses, which even the herbivores have trouble with and adapted to. Horses are a little different, this isn't in Gundry's books, I stumbled on this information in a documentary on Youtube about Wild Mustangs. It said that horses adapted to eating grasses by extracting the nutrients somehow, and expelling most of the bulk rather than digesting it like cows, ect. You can see that in road apples (horse poop) if you looks., You can see the bits of straw.
'demonize rapeseed oil'. Brings back memories of the late 70s early 80s when the big push for margarine came to demonize butter. Remember all the commercials that said 'Doctors recommend margarine over butter'?. I stopped using margarine at least 15 years ago altogether. It is definitely time for a complete makeover! Cheers.
I continued to use butter thru those years of propaghanda. A few years ago the truth came out. I love a good, crusty italian bread. My daily treat is a generous portion cut from a bakery loaf with lots of butter. Sometimes toasted with butter and a topping of poppy or sesame seeds. My mouth is watering at the thought!
I love my coffee too. I usually drink it black, sweetened with locally produced honey. This is the first I hear of someone putting butter in their coffee. That's what makes coffee so good. It's great for mixing! Anyone got brandy?
Yeah, I tried bulletproof coffee -- HATE the butter mustache! I am dubious of the health status of MCT Oil Powder (which make a super 'creamer' in mah cawfee!) but I prefer risking that to a butter mustache!) Yeah, tried a battery-powered "whisk" too -- thing worked ONCE and died!
No, it's not bad. I actually take a small glass tub with some butter in it when I meet friends for breakfast -- SO MANY places today don't use real butter! GOTTA have butter on grits... (yes-so? I'm aspie... I try to keep my stress low by accommodating MYSELF when I can!)
Yea I noticed there's a new 'butter' that is plant based, just like the fake meat. I avoid all that. Clif is right that we must pay closer attention to what we ingest into our bodies. We are what we eat, eh!
Sorry I'm not Cliff so it's cheeky for me to reply, but this stuff is sort of my jam and I can't resist. CO is good for baking and ice-cream and stuff but don't fry with it, at least don't reuse the oil if you do. Hope this helps.
See my comment above and the links on John Galt's thread. Coconut oil is not only super healthy it can withstand high temperature cooking as can olive oil also, see Dr Gundry... Clif had this wrong.
In the Mediterranean region people have used olive oil for thousands of years. Both raw and for cooking. Olive oil is extracted from the fleshy fruits not the stones. I will continue to use olive oil and also butter, which has a very long history of usage. Mediterranean people also used olive oil for skin protection, before suntan lotions were invented. I remember the Spanish girls staying with us un the 1960s basted themselves with olive oil before sunbathing 😀.
PS, speaking from England, where we had blue skies and proper sunshine in the 60s. Not the veiled silver skies we have now, from daily / nightly chemtrails. 😔
Wonderful info! My go-to guy re PUFA’s has always been Dr. Ray Peat. He’s quite a character and says marmalade is his secret weapon. I think because citrus peel is great as an antiviral.
“Thankfully, if you’re relatively new to the wonderful world of saturated fat, and you’ve been a PUFA-abuser in the recent past, there are some simple ways to do a little damage control. Dr. Raymond Peat, a well-known pro-real-food researcher with a Ph.D in biology and physiology, is one of the leading experts in the field today on thyroid functioning, metabolic health, and the effects of polyunsaturated fats on the body.
Dr. Peat says that simply adding a good, healthy dose of coconut oil to your daily diet is an excellent way to combat the effects of leftover PUFAs stuck in your cells.”
“An important function of coconut oil is that it supports mitochondrial respiration, increasing energy production that has been blocked by the unsaturated fatty acids. Since the polyunsaturated fatty acids inhibit thyroid function at many levels, coconut oil can promote thyroid function simply by reducing those toxic effects. It allows normal mitochondrial oxidative metabolism, without producing the toxic lipid peroxidation that is promoted by unsaturated fats.” Dr. Ray Peat, Ph.D“
All good info and I like to use coconut oil. I just listed to a few videos with Dr. Ray Peat, but he says that Salmon is bad for us because it has too much polyunsaturated fat - I always thought wild-caught salmon was the ultimate health food? He also says too much saturated fat is bad....
Wonderful story about your female friend who is now at 330 pounds. Last year I started using only extra virgin olive oil and avocado oil. I've always used real butter, never margarine. So, the two oils I use are okay? As long as I don't use them for heating/cooking foods? Thanks.
I've been off seed oils, carbs, and sugar for five years now and everything Cliff just said is absolutely true!! I'm older than Cliff and I've never felt healthier!
Same here;) and forever in the sun. I use to say I’m solar powered;) I live in sunny Florida and when they closed the beach here during that stupid event I went out and bought a bike and haven’t stopped biking since. Interesting about the sun on your torso bc I get a lot of it on my neck while biking🙌🏻
Me too more or less, but Cliffy had me baking bread. I'm good at baking bread. I spent a winter in a house on the Atlantic in Cape Breton and baked bread all winter. I cycled there and I weighed 290lbs when I got back on my bicycle to ride home. (Ottawa) 230 is a nice weight for me. My poor bicycle.
I can whip up baguettes from scratch without a recipe. I was doing that and I gained about 20 lbs, it happened so fast. Off the baguettes, it's going away.
I haven't listened to Clif yet, sound not working for some reason. I was just listening to music. *shrug* On it.
Yes, I can't imagine Clif's bread thing is healthy... all those extra carbs. I eat only Ezekiel bread and try to limit that.
I do eat a few too many Trader Joe organic corn chips. 🙁
I love making nachos. I've been on ~keto for about 10 years, 80% of the good things that I cook are now off my diet. This is no fun but I'm a lot healthier.
So... no more nachos, right? Bummer... I really like the the tortilla chips, but I guess even organic corn oil (heated too) is toxic...
I am in Tucson, and do get out in the sun for around 15 mins max... 3-5X/week... I tan a little, but the sun DOES really burn... so maybe Clif has a point...
I think I might try this, lose the oils, even olive oil... going to butter or bacon fat might be a good thing... better taste too... I wonder if cooking (not supplementing) with EV coconut oil is ok, since I just bought a big jug of it... ?
I also wonder if taking some Zeolite would help the process too... low dose...
Damn, I just bought THREE bags of tortilla chips too! (Schit!) 😱
Clif is the best... but is not infallable at all... I still need to do more homework... but... this is interesting:
https://drcate.com/seed-oils-questions-answers-for-your-health/
https://www.betternutrition.com/diet-and-nutrition/8-bad-seed-oils-you-should-eliminate-from-your-diet/
Olive oil is fine, you just shouldn't fry with it. I'd hate to give up olive oil. I didn't know that until today but it has solids in it and it burns, so I never fried with it anyway. Same goes for coconut oil. I actually did fry with that occasionally, I won't anymore.
I've known about seed oils for quite a while. I don't eat that crap. I also never go to restaurants, I like to cook and I like to know what I'm eating. Besides, I can make it better than they can most of the time.
I thought coconut oil was fine for frying, which I do almost never... I only saute stuff in a pan, which is pretty low heat, I think... I think the EV coconut oil is OK for that... I read that refined coconut oil is better for frying, as it has a higher smoke temp...
I knew seed oils were bad... but still downed the tortilla chips... (fool)... I work out pretty hard and often for a 66 yr old... but lately have noticed a "baby bump" that should not be there, given my otherwise pretty healthy diet and workouts... so I'll try something different. Probably give away the chips... probably... maybe... 😕
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/why-is-coconut-oil-good-for-you#TOC_TITLE_HDR_2
I just purchased food grade coconut oil to try. But the coconut is a seed as well. I heard that bacon fat has harmful nitrates. Could have been propaghanda from the medical community to steer us away from the good fats.
You have to know where you’re buying your bacon and meats... never from a grocery store. I buy my bacon from a very reputable store in Ft Laudedale( Wild Fork), no nitrates, no sugar. Most bacon have added sugar.
I think after reading about it, coconut oil is not so bad, IF it is used sparingly for cooking, certainly better than canola spray... and yes, I would think that bacon DOES contain nitrates, but this article may be useful:
https://blog.biotrust.com/bacon-actually-good-myth-debunked/
I think I will go abck to bacon... it's been many years!
And... I'm thinking about using un-hydrogenated LARD... if I can find it... seems it is not nearly as bad as it sounds!!! And far better than seed oils!!
https://www.drweil.com/diet-nutrition/nutrition/is-lard-healthy/
Hey, that's great to hear! I'm sure it is keeping you clean of toxins/heavy metals... not sure if you need it daily, but if it "ain't broke"... eh? What brand and what dose? I have the green jug Zeo Health "Pure"powder stuff... and some "Pure Body Extra" spray.
I tried it, took too much, and took colloidal silver... AND Ivermectin... and I had a nasty detox reaction... but I will do only Zeolite next time... I think I'll cycle it, maybe use for the first week of the month... or maybe low dose daily after trying to clean myself out more aggressively for a while... not sure what's best...
Hi, how do you make Ezekiel bread please?
You have to purchase it. I get mine at Trader Joe's. A local health food grocery "Sprouts" carries it, but at a much higher price.
BTW: My favorite Ezekiel flavor is the Sesame bread. If they still make the raisin bread that is good too.
Thank you! I'm in the UK so we don't have that but I could probably put together the individual ingredients and make my own.
Hmmmmm... I think you can find sprouted grains breads in the UK... check out this search:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sprouted+grain+bread+uk+supermarkets&t=h_&ia=web
Do you get pasture raised/organic eggs... or is that unnecessary? I have been buying Trader Joe's organic brown eggs, still a bit less than $5...
BTW: I only use Ezekiel bread, but I don't find it to be very tasty... it IS much better when toasted, even lightly. I do really like cheese, but try to keep that to mozzarella... I assume it is not very good for me tho... antibiotics and hormones... damn...
I eat a fair amount of organic oatmeal... maple syrup to sweeten... oat milk...
Sounds like you have it wired... I salute you.
Never too late.
There's also this thing called a glycemic index.... Things that are high on the glycemic index convert to fat much faster than things that are lower on the glycemic index. Pretty sure that baguettes are high on the glycemic index :-)
LOL! I'm pretty sure they are too. One thing I've noticed is that when you brush aside all the medical bull is that French Cooking is largely pretty healthy stuff.
Did you also remove sesame seeds, nuts, coconut, avocados etc too?
I eat almonds and walnuts, coconut oil and avocados as well. The fats in all these foods are beneficial.
As long as they are not heated greatly.
I wonder if sunflower seeds are OK... since sunflower oil is not... ??
All seeds are bad... for us ...
Then what the hell kind of oil does one use to cook with? I thought avacado was fine until I listened to this. Right now my standard cooking base is a dolup of avacado oil, a little bit of Amish butter, and slat and pepper. I know coconut oil is poison if it gets heated beyond a very low temperature (compared to other oils)... So what do we use? Just water? It'll burn your food...
Yes, I do! Look up Dr. Eric Berg online. That's where I got my first info on this way of eating. He has hundreds of videos and is very informative. It's called the "keto" diet, but it's just a healthy way of eating! He explains everything in detail! Good luck!
I follow Dr. Eric Berg as well. He is an outstanding coach with well done videos and sources.
Also, Dr Ken Berry, Dr Shawn Baker, and others on YouTube.
berg is a TOTAL scientologist...i ran away screaming
I don't think that matters; his MEDICAL info is sound. I've watched a bunch of his stuff (have a medical background of sorts) and have found very little I take exception to.
I’ve followed Varis Ahmad on YT for a while now. Excellent videos, and I feel better than ever these days!
Thanks. Just looked him up and subscribed.
I agree, there are better options than Berg, ... the doc from India, I forget his name, I think he’s a cardiologist...communicates very well...
What??? Why?
'Zactly.
I LOVE Dr. Berg!
Dr. Berg is a storehouse of great info, lives what he teaches, and is a treasure.
BTW, essiac tea also helps body fight cancer. Genuine essiac .com for item and lots of testimonials posted daily on you tube at genuine essiac.
Weston Price Foundation. https://www.westonaprice.org/#gsc.tab=0
If you like to read, and dig deep -- Gary Taubes wrote the most FANTASTIC book called "Good Calories, Bad Calories." (sheesh, a decade ago now?) Amazingly reffed (a couple HUNDRED pages of refs, I vaguely remember) and SO well written. (Gary won the ... I forget what it's called -- Tech Writer? No, Science Writer of the Year, like, FOUR times in a row (then recused himself); from the... oh hell, I used to BE a tech writer, can't even REMEMBER the name of the professional org -- but his writing is AMAZING!!
Anyway -- amazing fantastic EYE-opening book! He ALSO did a second "popularizer" book version for normal people a few years later, all the info with a LOT less of the medical/reference material... I finished "Good Calories, Bad Calories" the minute it came out -- and IMMEDIATELY went back to page 1 and reread the whole thing! VERY surprising info...
Fruits are pure sugar and lots of vegetables are too... you don’t want that. You want to avoid vegetables with roots (yuka, potatoes, etc)
Fruit sugar is what our bodies need, it is nothing like other kinds of sugar.
Yes it is. All sugars raise your insuline levels. Sugar is sugar period.
Carnivore diet
You asked, I kindly answered. I don’t have to show you anything really. You do you I do me plus I’m not your personal google😏
I read an article about how since we are closely related to monkeys who eat almost all fruit, that our bodies are able to digest fruit. I love fruit, it’s my candy and I don’t want to stop 😅
Since you’ve just started on this, I suggest you research everywhere you can. You will undertand with time. I saw on another comment you are following Dr. Berg so you are good
Always amazed! Always thankful for the education! I've lost 30+ pounds this last winter, (Thanksgiving, Christmas, pies, cakes, Hollidays) wondered why, now I know, been using Lard, Bacon grease, Butter for the last year, not because I knew this, but because I didn't like all the price increases on cooking oils. Lard, Butter and Bacon were cheaper. Thanks Again Mister High
Grats!
I stopped eating industrial seed oils about 4 years ago. I also stopped all plant foods. I am a carnivore and benefit greatly from it. I'm glad to hear Cliffs info on seed oils. They have only damaged human kind.
Carnivore here too🙌🏻 I weight 100 pounds and eat lots of fat. I put a teaspoon of butter in my morning coffee and eat one meal a day. I never count calories.
Butter and real maple syrup for my coffee
Oooh, that sounds good. Don't want the sugar though, I use maple syrple and honey, but sparingly.
no maple syrup for me either... it’s sugar
I said that about honey to a friend who is a bee keeper. The look on his face indicated that he did not care for that comment.
🤣
excellant!
I put cream and butter in my coffee. My daughter was a barista for a while, I think she called it a bullet coffee.
I'm two of you though. I tried to get down to my BMI weight of 190lbs once. Got down to 200 and people told me to cut it out. BMI is bullshit.
Yes, BMI is flaming b.s.
What is your one meal a day? Describe it?
OMAD (one meal a day) means no snacking, nothing until I sit down to eat, usually late at night. I’ve been doing this since I was 13 years old not knowing anything about nutrition back then. My energy is very high with an empty stomach. Once I’m ready to eat it’s usually steaks, fish, eggs...I don’t eat vegetables and no carbs. I was never crazy about fruits so knowing that fruits are pure sugar it’s easy for me. One thing I will not go without is my daily glass of red wine;)🍷
Red wine sounds like fruit to me.
I'm mostly a carnivore lately. I do try to eat some vegetables though.
I've been off seed oils a little more than 4 years, 5 or 6. If I fry anything, I'll use bacon grease if I have any but I generally use lard.
Talked to my butcher about that. He has started selling lard. Great guy, just bought the business, the old butcher was a bit morose most of the time and always in too much of a rush to give you decent service.
Excellent! Thank you! Now I know!
On it.
Many thanks for your drops, Clif! Gives me hope for my grands! Im 70, running a farm and hubby still works.
Meat goats and eggs! Hydroponics and huge garden. Hope we good guys make it thru this upsetting reset.
I am so glad that I listened to this. I am taking my obese husband off of seed oils immediately. This has given me hope. We are older and I am tired of doing all of the chores. I need him to transform into a helper for me. Thank you so much!
Thank you , Cliff . God Bless you
Thank you Cliff for helping us humans keep up and consider different perspectives.
Pure avacado oil is not a seed oil. This is the same oil that you had also mentioned having a fat profile very close to human breast milk.
ONLY unheated past 110 degrees. Then it changes.
So really, our only real option would be beef tallow, real butter, egg yolk, pork fat(not as good).
What do you mean pork fat not as good- what doesn't taste better cooked in good old bacon grease/fat? Especially my eggs, potatoes and more.
Pork fat is higher in omega 6
Coconut oil for cooking and hemp oil for cold eating (salads etc.)
No coconut oil... not good for you either... do some research on it;)
I'm intereseted to know why you think it's not healthy. The few sites I found that recommended against it recommended canola oil. That tells me right away that they're shills for Big Ag and their mass produced poisonous products.
Not true.
Coconut also has too low a 'damage' temperature to cook with! Use butter. You can also pretty easily make ghee from butter -- that last and last out on the country and does NOT smoke or burn at normal cooking temps. Got a Crockpot? Really easy to make ghee. I use Kerry Gold butter (only butter I use).
Great info Cliff! Love all your posts, even the ones I have to put on my waders and try not to have brain blow out! Would like to know if coconut oil is OK for cooking? That's what I've been using. Thanks dude, you're oustanding!
I always thought it was much higher temps, Thanks for the clarification!
Clarification, I see what you did there!
It's expensive though, at least it is in Canada. I cook with lard or bacon grease. I have avocado oil. I eat olive oil, I love a good olive oil, but I don't fry things in it, too many solids, and now I know, thank you Cliffy, that there are other reasons.
I also store ghee, clarified butter. Buy it from Indian shops, don't get the vegetable stuff, it's foul. I don't use it though. It keeps, and I keep it with my anti-holodomor kit. Mind you there is rice and flour in there as well.
I consume almost exclusively, beef tallow, butter and lots of eggs for my primary fat. We do use avocado and coconut oil once in a while.
Ghee is great for frying/cooking.
Thanks Clif. This will be useful. One thing - are you sure you meant to say Melatonin and not Melanin?
you're right. Melanin is affected & tanning more difficult. Watch out for burning if just coming off oils.
Thanks for clarifying that... I was wondering too...
Are tanning beds effective in this process?
I switched off all other crap fats a year ago....now we only use rendered beef tallow
Do you make your own?
Have you noticed that when you buy a roast nowadays the cut all the fat off it?
I don't like that.
I love a good chuck roast with fat! That’s the best part.
People don't want to pay $5.99/lb for fat.
No they don't. Have you noticed that regular hamburger is cheaper than lean hamburger?
I get my meat from Butcher Box -- grass-fed, grass-finished, comes frozen... I have a sous vide machine so I chuck it in and let it cook! I get the custom box (prefer sirloins to ribeyes, chicken breast to whole chicken, and so on: can pick and choose what I want in the box) every two months. YUMMY meats!!
BTW, rumor has it (somewhat credible source) monsanto or representatives of monsanto are approaching crop dusters. Trying to recruit them to spray stuff with MRNA in it on water, lands, crops etc...just a rumor until I get the evidence I'm asking for...
Wouldn't be surprised. Wish we could find the pilots of Chemtrail planes. They should be lynched.
Air dropped, without a parachute, would be a fitting way for them to go :)
Before I left the city I used to go to this normie bar sometimes on my way home, it was just down the street. I'd get mad at the normies all the time, they're so stupid.
Last time I went in there, the bartender looked at me... "I'll be good" He gives me a beer.
Sitting at the bar I asked the fellows beside me what they did, I always do that, you can learn things from people.
One of the guys said "I work for Monsanto."
"CHECK PLEASE!"
What about coconut oil?
I read coconut oil is not a seed oil its from the pulp. Weird -as I thought coconuts were palm seeds?
I don't use it much anyway. But what about putting these oils on the skin - like coconut oil? Does that cause the same problems Clif talked about?
I have been wondering the same thing about sesame seed oil on the skin.... I have been thinking that a lot of our trouble is coming from using oils packaged in plastic, whether for cooking or on the body or for that matter lotions and creams. Glass only.... time to go back to old school... they really did a number on us! I told my husband months ago that I want to make some Ghee.. not even interested in buying it, just make it myself and use cheesecloth to remove the milk solids.
I have a hilal (Arab) store a block away. They sell ghee. But I noticed Walmart sells the same brand as them, half the price. It is hard to get out of the jar though. I only store in glass now too. And I've started using magnesium lotion on skin. Very helpful stuff, actually better than taking a mg supplement.
I've been installing metal on my roof. I'm 65 and I did nothing all winter.
I've had a few long hot baths with epsom salts. Epsom salts are actually magnesium salts and it does absorb through the skin.
Interesting! Would like to hear more about that magnesium lotion.... I learned from a Hindu friend (a Brahmin) that it is very easy to make your own Ghee which remains liquid (never solid) and can actually last on the kitchen counter for years without ever going rancid. Melt the butter, usually a pound VERY slowly on VERY low heat as it should not burn as the chemistry will be altered. Once melted,sieve out the milk solids with cheesecloth and then put it in a jar on the counter. Although he didn't specify, I assumed unsalted butter. Maybe Clif has clarified butter method?
You can try putting it in a pot and putting it in the oven on it's lowest setting. Surround heat rather than bottom heat.
I haven't done that myself, it just occurs to me. I think next time I see butter on sale I'll try it. I usually buy it from an Indian store as 'cow' ghee.
Look up making ghee is a Crockpot -- WAY easy and no mess... you do it on low heat, and then skim the milk solids off the top. (Or is it skim the melted ghee and leave the milk solids at the bottom? Sorry, it's been so long I don't remember...) You CAN do it in a deep frying pan... Crockpot is easy...
Rendered beef tallow is really good base for skin lotion. The biggest draw, my dog loves it too...
Oh no, doggo! He'll lick your face to death.
Coconut oil is EXCELLENT on skin! I use MCT Oil (medium chain triglyceride) -- it's refined coconut oil -- so it's liquid all the time... Superb as a moisturizer! (I put a drop of jasmine essential oil in a small jar with the MCT oil and -- oh! Just lovely!) I use food grade though -- no extra 'stuff' in it!
Goodwill may have glass jars for sale. Many turning them in for cheap dollar store plastic.
Not good... research on it...
You are wrong and also about coconut oil. Ghee is very very good as is pure, cold pressed coconut oil.
Do some research on coconut oil...I used it a lot in the past...I stoppeed using ghee, I simply use the fat from bacon. It sits in my airfryer and if not I use butter, lots of it;)
I remember in my youth, it was always butter! I started using butter again recently and realized how much I missed the delicious flavor. Is that bad too? I hope not because I want to make strawberry rhubarb pound cake and it calls for a boatload of butter!
Butter is very very good for you. I drink a pot of coffee in the morning and every cup has a tablespoon of butter in it just to consume it. Cream too. I actually like black coffee, heh.
Drink it black, the cream and butter nullify the polyphenols Read my post taht disappeared, then watch the video I ppost below. . Sorry but I disagree with the point of view Clif has here. First, olive is not a seed oil, it is the olive fruit that is pressed, not the pit. Canola oil is garbage, it as GMO product of Rapeseed oil. In India Rapeseed oil was used for centuries by the poor classes with no major ill effects. The small local peddlers squeezed the rape seed fresh and it was sold in the street markets for many generations. But Big Pharma saw a huge market in India for their toxic oil products, so they had the media there demonize rape seed oil and prohibit it's street manufacture and sale, and substituted their Pharma garbage for instead. Diabetes on a mass scale resulted from the processed Omega 6 oils. Sesame Oil and Olive oil are both super good for you (organic, cold pressed of course). So is coconut and Perilla oil, used in Korea, sesame and perilla oils and olive oil. coconut oil have been used for thousands of years with no known health peril. They are all loaded with polyphenols, as is dark chocolate ('bitter' bakers chocolate, not dutched or processed with alkali) red wine and coffee, all are super foods loaded with polyphenols which are like human health catnip. Enter Dr Gundry in the equation. What Clif is saying is partly true, processed oils are toxic trans fat Omega 6 garbage. Dr Gundry has solved the major mysteries of both food and oils. His interview on the Hallmark Channel 7-8 years ago gives a great overview of it. Dr Gundry was head of the Vegetarian (Seventh Day Adventists) Loma Linda Heart Institute in L.A. One day a biker guy showed up for a heart bypass. Gundry was his last resort, his previous cardiologist said his arteries were so bad he wouldn't survive the surgery. Gundry initially agreed with that, but the biker said he had been on a special diet and wanted a new work up. Lo and behold the biker's mushy arteries had regenerated 50% on his diet. This intriuged Gundry because he had never seen such a restoration of damaged arteries or general health before. Until Big Ed Gundry was an elite cardiologist, (awards, inventions, able to do baby heart transplants, ect) but otherwise a standard high end physician. Big Ed made him look at food with new eyes. he investigated Big Ed's 6 month diet that healed 50% of his arterial damage. He discovered that the berries that Big Ed had eaten a lot of were loaded with polyphenols, and Ed had also been taking a number of vitamin and herb supplements. Gundry did a deep dive on all of it. He had been a research doctor at NIH for 2 years before deciding to become a cardiologist. What he discovered was two fold. First our gut bacteria is the key to everything about your health. Humans, mammals and even bugs don't digest our foods, our gut bacteria does it for us, our stomach acid mostly just breaks it down for them. That led to a major finding. New World Foods vs Old World foods, the two are night and day, Humans evolved in Africa, Asia and Europe, but NO ONE evolved in the Americas. All plants make poisons to survive against bugs and mammals, those plant poisons are called lectins. Humans in the three continents evolved with those Old World plants over gazillions of years and we became symbiotoic with their poisons, in other words our gut bacteria is immune to the Old World human diet plants. There are two exceptions to that, grasses/(grains) and beans/(legumes) which are new to our gut and very difficult to digest as they are foreign (poisonous) lectins to out ancient gut biome, it cannot handle them well. When processed correctly, (poisons defused or lowered by peeling, de-seeding or high temp cooking, and/or by fermentation) we can semi-digest them, but still with some side effects. It is the New World foods and garbage oils that cause the massive systemic inflammation that causes most of the diseases we suffer from. New World/foreign Lectins that are not defused enough in New World foods (and some chemicals and medicines) poke microscopic holes in your intestinal lining. It a problem most people suffer from, the name for it is 'leaky gut' syndrome. It is caused by toxic (foreign) lectins, chemicals, and Nsaid pain killers. Your intestinal lining is only ONE cell wall thick, think about that. Your intestines' ONE cell thick lining is held together by something called 'tight bonds'. Foreign (New World) lectins eat away at, and degrade those tight bonds by penetrating them with microscopic holes, and your gut contents then start to leak into your body cavity. This is where all hell breaks loose. Inflammation from undigested food particles, poop particles, and even our friendly gut bacteria become foreign invaders wreaking havoc once inside the body cavity. They usually go for the joints quickly and then every (and any) other organ becomes fair game for inflammation from the ongoing, constant microbial attack. That is the nutshell overview. Another detail is that humans are indeed tree animals. We don't have the multiple stomachs to digest grasses (cows have three stomachs, some herbivores have up to five stomach compartments). This is because grains are monocots, a single leaf plant. Humans were evolved to eat Dicots, which are two leafed plants, which are easier to digest than the tough fibers in grasses, which even the herbivores have trouble with and adapted to. Horses are a little different, this isn't in Gundry's books, I stumbled on this information in a documentary on Youtube about Wild Mustangs. It said that horses adapted to eating grasses by extracting the nutrients somehow, and expelling most of the bulk rather than digesting it like cows, ect. You can see that in road apples (horse poop) if you looks., You can see the bits of straw.
'demonize rapeseed oil'. Brings back memories of the late 70s early 80s when the big push for margarine came to demonize butter. Remember all the commercials that said 'Doctors recommend margarine over butter'?. I stopped using margarine at least 15 years ago altogether. It is definitely time for a complete makeover! Cheers.
I continued to use butter thru those years of propaghanda. A few years ago the truth came out. I love a good, crusty italian bread. My daily treat is a generous portion cut from a bakery loaf with lots of butter. Sometimes toasted with butter and a topping of poppy or sesame seeds. My mouth is watering at the thought!
My mouth is watering too, cut it out!
Never stopped using butter. Not for any esoteric reasons. It's butter! I like it!
I did use margerine for frying for a while, not long though I like natural things and margerine is not that. Turns out it's toxic.
Darn those old Parkay commercials.... "Butter!"
Dr Gundry Shocks Hallmark channel Hosts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL11w9FxltM&t=633s
Then read his oil podcast transcript: https://drgundry.com/oil-lecture-transcript/
Oh boy, me too! I have a expresso machine and drink at least 6 or 7 every morning with salted butter, delicious😋
I love my coffee too. I usually drink it black, sweetened with locally produced honey. This is the first I hear of someone putting butter in their coffee. That's what makes coffee so good. It's great for mixing! Anyone got brandy?
I have some. I quit drinking though. I have it as a cooking ingredient.
Girfriend gave me coffee with rum in it in the morning when we were sailing.
Yuch! I like rum, but not in coffee and not first thing in the morning!
Something her dad did.
Now I just soak raisins in it.
Yeah, I tried bulletproof coffee -- HATE the butter mustache! I am dubious of the health status of MCT Oil Powder (which make a super 'creamer' in mah cawfee!) but I prefer risking that to a butter mustache!) Yeah, tried a battery-powered "whisk" too -- thing worked ONCE and died!
No, it's not bad. I actually take a small glass tub with some butter in it when I meet friends for breakfast -- SO MANY places today don't use real butter! GOTTA have butter on grits... (yes-so? I'm aspie... I try to keep my stress low by accommodating MYSELF when I can!)
Yea I noticed there's a new 'butter' that is plant based, just like the fake meat. I avoid all that. Clif is right that we must pay closer attention to what we ingest into our bodies. We are what we eat, eh!
Thank you Cliff. what about coconut oil?
Sorry I'm not Cliff so it's cheeky for me to reply, but this stuff is sort of my jam and I can't resist. CO is good for baking and ice-cream and stuff but don't fry with it, at least don't reuse the oil if you do. Hope this helps.
thanks for that.
See my comment above and the links on John Galt's thread. Coconut oil is not only super healthy it can withstand high temperature cooking as can olive oil also, see Dr Gundry... Clif had this wrong.
I don’t think so... Clif is right... just saying
Thanks, Is the same true for avocado oil?
In the Mediterranean region people have used olive oil for thousands of years. Both raw and for cooking. Olive oil is extracted from the fleshy fruits not the stones. I will continue to use olive oil and also butter, which has a very long history of usage. Mediterranean people also used olive oil for skin protection, before suntan lotions were invented. I remember the Spanish girls staying with us un the 1960s basted themselves with olive oil before sunbathing 😀.
PS, speaking from England, where we had blue skies and proper sunshine in the 60s. Not the veiled silver skies we have now, from daily / nightly chemtrails. 😔
Wonderful info! My go-to guy re PUFA’s has always been Dr. Ray Peat. He’s quite a character and says marmalade is his secret weapon. I think because citrus peel is great as an antiviral.
“Thankfully, if you’re relatively new to the wonderful world of saturated fat, and you’ve been a PUFA-abuser in the recent past, there are some simple ways to do a little damage control. Dr. Raymond Peat, a well-known pro-real-food researcher with a Ph.D in biology and physiology, is one of the leading experts in the field today on thyroid functioning, metabolic health, and the effects of polyunsaturated fats on the body.
Dr. Peat says that simply adding a good, healthy dose of coconut oil to your daily diet is an excellent way to combat the effects of leftover PUFAs stuck in your cells.”
“An important function of coconut oil is that it supports mitochondrial respiration, increasing energy production that has been blocked by the unsaturated fatty acids. Since the polyunsaturated fatty acids inhibit thyroid function at many levels, coconut oil can promote thyroid function simply by reducing those toxic effects. It allows normal mitochondrial oxidative metabolism, without producing the toxic lipid peroxidation that is promoted by unsaturated fats.” Dr. Ray Peat, Ph.D“
Will miss Dr. Ray's wisdom - he passed a few months back. His thyroid protocols have kept me alive and (relatively) sane :)
I didn’t know he’d died. He left a legacy for sure. Glad he was of help to you.
But does the coconut oil have to be uncooked?
All good info and I like to use coconut oil. I just listed to a few videos with Dr. Ray Peat, but he says that Salmon is bad for us because it has too much polyunsaturated fat - I always thought wild-caught salmon was the ultimate health food? He also says too much saturated fat is bad....
Yes, a few of his premises confuse me. I wonder if hemp oil is okay?
Wonderful story about your female friend who is now at 330 pounds. Last year I started using only extra virgin olive oil and avocado oil. I've always used real butter, never margarine. So, the two oils I use are okay? As long as I don't use them for heating/cooking foods? Thanks.
https://drcate.com/seed-oils-questions-answers-for-your-health/
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