I’m lucky to be surrounded by famers, pipefitters, and electricians. Unfortunately, not all are awake, due to “Union” mindset. I’ve been preparing and prepping mentally, physically, and financially for the last 4 years. I just hope I am prepared enough for whatever happens.
If society collapses in the near future as Clif High suggests,--and I don't doubt that that is a very distinct possibility--trying to predict, as he does, what comes next is folly. There is no way to know in advance how far society will fall and at what point it will start to reorganize. If there is a complete societal collapse then it is unlikely, as he suggests, that power will return to the "Makers/Doers". Without an established supply chain nothing other than simple handheld items would be produced by individuals and that would only occur on an as needed basis. Barter would likely be the only form of exchange, which allows for little more than agrarian production and organization. It seems far more likely that tribalism would take hold and any power and wealth that there is--however that would be defined under such neo-conditions--would flow to the most successful tribe, and specifically its warlord and his henchmen. For the modern human, unaccustomed to such Hobbesian "brutishness", being killed in the nuclear blast would probably be the preferable course.
Deer Hunter comes to mind, even though that midget shitbag De Niro is in it. It is why I do not have any desire for a full-auto weapon. One Shot, ... One Kill. Any gang of marauders would have to be quite large, to continue marauding forward, after watching the first ten near them, fall dead. Risk assessment may be lacking in them, but a rethink may be required for them.
No doubt you would be able to repel wave after wave John, but once all your booby traps have been sprung and you'd fired off your "million" rounds of ammo, then what? What we are discussing is the collapse of society, not just some new bully in the neighbourhood. Under such conditions, unless someone formed, or were part of, some larger "gang" it is very unlikely that anyone could hold out indefinitely--history has taught us that. Besides, the discussion was regarding the long-term (i.e. the rebuilding of society), potentially multi-generational, not just what people would do in the immediate term.
Did you not start your discourse with "to predict what comes next is folly" and then go on to predict what would come next? ...specifically that John's defenses would eventually run out? This presumes a constant supply of criminals. The life expectancy of those who poach for a living may be quite short. Where there exists no law enforcement, the practice of thievery is punishable at the discretion of those with the momentary upper hand. In countries where theft is punishable by severing the right hand, leaving the thief with only his "ass wiping hand" theft remains quite low.
Yessir. I collect 5 gallon buckets which have a million uses. The two things I concentrate on? Springs and wheels; from the doors of appliances and old bicycles. I can probably make them if I had a gun to my head, but it is soooooo much easier to scavenge them now.
"They" are the Archons, overlords, rulers. Look up the secret covenant or watch the latest dollar_vigilante video on bitchute. And it's according to the Nag Hammadi codex.
I try to be stocked up on what I need to survive, but knowing I will not last, all I can hope for is to last longer than some others. And even though I have very limited resources with which to accumulate supplies, I still do it with the core notion that I will be helping my neighbors in whatever way I might be able, in desperate times, purely for the sake of feeling like a human being. I know it would cut my survival duration shorter, but that is secondary.
In the end, if it is to be that we feel the heat, well, I'll have my lawn chair, shades and a cold one, ready for the big flash. In some situations, I feel that ultimate survival, is overrated.
A lot will depend on what part of the nation you're in, and whether city or rural. I live in S. GA in the country near a small town (5-7000 pop.) Construction everywhere. Houses, apt. complexes, offices, stores, fast food. Alternatively, the local Popeye's shut down after being open 6 mos - can't get anybody to work. Lots of work, lots of "help wanted" signs, going out to eat almost as often as ever although prices have gone up. To look at S. GA, you'd never think there was anything going on.
II just got done last week, dehydrating 26 dozen eggs, crumbling it, then smashing in a large granite mortar to get sifted powder. The price of eggs came way down, so I had the thought of trying to dry them to store up. ..... I was half way through drying all the eggs when the media blew up the Bird Flu nonsense. Depending on how fast or slow the cost of eggs goes up, I may do another 25 doz real soon. Luckily, I remembered to weigh some of them. I dried 5 doz, powdered it and kept it separate from the rest and got a total weight, then divided that weight by 60, then used a teaspoon to measure how many it would take to reach that weight. Approx 5 level tsp = one egg. The rehydrating water measurement part I will do later.
If ur using store bought plants or seeds ur gonna want a sun shade tarp the uv is cooking tomatoes and other veggies n the south. Uv been above the scale n ohio I had 2 get some for my animals they refuse 2 b in the sun
Thanks for the advice. I have a black thumb but I'm working of fixing that.
I'm in Canada but it can get hot here too. The tomatoes I planted from seed are huge but these I just bought a few days ago. 40 for $17.50 Romas, I thought that was OK.
I have a bolt of burlap and deer fence. The beds I built have wire rings at either end and one in the middle for covers. I use the deer fence to keep chipmunks from digging up my little plants, I've not used the burlap.
Duck cloth is durable and makes a good "sun sail" - you've seen them: triangular cloths shading a patio. Doesn't have to be triangular, of course. Also lace curtains (thrift shop), mosquito netting curtains (I used this inside greenhouse in summer). If there's a bamboo patch anywhere, they make great frameworks if you can get some. I got HUGE mosquito net curtains from internet for serious cheap $$.
I have lots of mosquito net, probably enough to cover a couple beds. Not much bamboo in Canada. I don't think. Guy was building a cedar fence across the street, 1" x 1" x 4' cedar stakes separating the layers. I got a whole bunch of red cedar stakes! They won't stay red but they look pretty cool right now.
It would be so cool if we could organize a Seed Bank Exchange!!! I have so many seeds that I was not able to get into the ground this year do to limited space. And, tho, I AM manifesting having more space next year, I still have oodles of organic seeds that I would love to share!!!
Hacked from clicking on a link? Sometimes I forget that not everyone uses Linux.
I used to have to fix my mom's computer 2 or 3 times a year then I put her on Linux, maybe 15 years ago. She has departed and I'm using the Linux box I bought her right now. To be fair it was pretty kickass when it was new.
The moral of the story is I never once had to fix her Linux box.
What happened to our craftsmen, sewers, plumbers, carpenters, welders and others with skills? The cabal changed our education system to eliminate shop, sewing and cooking classes, for the most part. If someone wants to go into the trades now, they have to find apprenticeships where they can acquire those skills.
I saw this transformation first hand.
I had occasion to do some substitute teaching in cooking and sewing classes and discovered twenty five years ago how few of these these classes are taught now. Hardly anything like what I experienced in the 1960s. This was by design I believe.
My grandmother initially taught me to sew at age 11 and I went on to take sewing and cooking classes. Few of my then classmates chose to sew after high school. Few were great cooks and even fewer of the boys went into trades.
I took journalism and English in college and graduated. I taught English, subbed in both English and journalism classes and noted the lack of real writing skills amongst the students. I knew then that our society was in trouble.
Skilled tradespeople are diminishing at an alarming rate. Old and no longer able or willing to do this strenuous work they moved on to retirement. Who will do this now?
I am hoping a new crop of apprentices springs up. We need skilled people and I think the time of ridiculing blue collar workers is over. Maybe some of these retired old farts will come out of their retirement and do come teaching.
I will give you a front-line answer; Born early 90s... Grew up in a VERY techy household & community near Microsoft (somewhat near to Clif, actually). Loved computers just fine, but was ALWAYS pushing to develop / investigate "hard skills" -> automotive, construction, applied science, manufacturing, industry, metalworking, etc.
- The schools in my community offered NO CLASSES in any of these things. The most we had was a woodshop, and this was dismantled about 5 years after I went through that school.
- My parents had this strange hypnotism over them for "higher liberal education"... a sort of bizarre 'fawning' for 'college'. Realized later this was due to emotional issue from my dad.
- All parents, teachers, etc. in the community had a similar hypnosis; They had a strange FEAR of the 'dangers' of physical / industrial work, and constantly discouraged / steered-us-away / soft-pedaled when we asked to use some of our community's money to be introduced to these trades.
- These high-strong liberal communities were SO dang litigious. They'd spend more time crowing about the work "litigation" than even thinking about the details of industrial training.
We can only hope that young people still will have that "PUSH" you mention, Marcus, to learn skilled trades, even if just DIY. My family was all intellectual and educationally oriented but my younger brother was the oddball: although he did get his B.S. he was always handy w/ tools and fixing things and now makes a good living as a handyman and retired plant manager. It's just inborn in some people. Hopefully that will continue!
Offspring of friend of mine in S. GA are choosing careers in just those areas that seem to have disappeared - high salaries and opportunities. College is seen as a waste unless the goal is nursing or teaching, something practical that requires credentials. It's cultural and regional.
That's what we need from here on out of young folks go back to learning the many trades you listed, instead of going to college that to me is a big waste of time and money, with many not being able to get a job when they graduate. It's very hard to find a good electrician or plumber nowadays. I took home ec and sewing classes in high school (1970-74) - that's 50 years ago!! Although I'm not into sewing, I do a lot of crocheting of afghans, baby blankets to give as gifts to family and friends as well as donate to the needy. High schools should bring back home ec, sewing, including how to grow food classes as it will be needed the way things are going as we move forward.
I didn't realise it was that bad. I was basically an academic student but I took electricity, auto-mechanics and architectural drafting. I regret not taking machine shop, but I could have.
I had shop in grade eight, everyone did. I have a magazine rack that I made for my mother in shop over 50 years ago.
I guess that's half a century, I wonder what we were learning a century ago. Probably law.
I was in a college prep course in H.S. and we kind of looked down on those students who took shop and home ec, believing that they couldn't hack it in academics; he who laughs last, eh?
The earth provides everything that we need. Even on the high desert there is a plethora of medicinals, There is a bumper crop of mullein and st john's wort. Besides, it is a lot of fun harvesting and creating medicines.
I used to see mullein everywhere in AL, but don't see any in S. GA. Do you live in an area that it prefers? I'm wondering what it would take to grow it here.
I'm in rural south central PA and our property has an explosion of mullein this year (as well as pokeweed). I recall seeing only a couple last year, and this year they're huge! One is about 4 ft tall.
As a former religious order member, it still amazes me that all religions are exactly what Clif says: Stockholm syndrome groups. It seems so obvious now!
AHH! Like most things in life, our "problems" are also our "opportunities" I have read that in the Chinese Kanji, those two words share the same character. As a third-generation union carpenter; that is about 100 years of experience to date, I can tell you that my grandfather, my father, and myself have all been considered somewhat crazy. There is a fine line between insanity and genius, and I believe that my grandfather, my uncles on my dad's side and my cousins and their children and grandchildren (my "KIN") have all been walking that line. Take no shit, tolerate no stupidity, and by all means produce way more that we consume. Not junk either, but the best of the best. Invent, make it faster and better and simply out compete the rest of the idiots. It looks like the rest of the world if finally getting it. I think that most of this group is on that page already, but if you are insulted, I apologize. I am sure you will get over it. In the meantime (for the last 50 years or so) I have been teaching as many people as I can what I have learned. If you need something done or something built, call a Crookston. Hey, you can always tell a Crookston; you just can't tell them very much!
Von, Good point. I am working with the National Liberty Alliance to set up Committees of Safety to make the local and appointed officials obey their oaths to the constitution. There are also the 10th amendment committees, the Jural assemblies, and about 5 other groups in Michigan alone. It is hard to get anyone else to pull in the same direction. I know that perhaps it would be good to just set up ": communities" of likeminded people and work to protect each other and look out for each other's interests. I am not a bible scholar, but I believe it says to "get out of Babylon" OK, where do you go?
You need to organize and build villages with all of the essentials if you are going to get away from "HER" My brother has developed a "POD" home that can be fully built in about 2 days. Very well insulated, anchored to the ground, but above the ground at the same time, shippable and expandable. Probably 40% of what a regular house will cost and a LOT more energy efficient. I have the sanitation figured out; look up "Humanure" by Joseph Jenkins, I know some of the people on this site are familiar with his work, and now we need a water source and a diverse group of people with diverse skill sets that can meet the needs of a community. It will be hard, but being a slave is even harder!
John Derash (sp) is de facto and his Committees of Safety are bogus and prior to 1775 USMC, 1776 D of I, 1777 Confederation and pepetual Union. He is all about taking forever to get things done. He kicked me out twice and Laura on Oregon got me back twice. I quit when he kicked me out the thrid time. I joined again several years later. I argued against him on his own show, He admitted to being wrong twice. he dominates the conversations. He is smart and controlled opposition. He will swap one de facto for another and never get to de jure. That is all bullshit.
There are 33 states among the severla states and they must be the Constitutional provisional governments to meet in Congress Assembled. No Counties or villages involved. Only states ARTICLE I Section 1. social compact.
You are going down a rabit hole to no avail. Anna is a liar and John does not tell the truth. Jim is a liar also. So is Richard Mack. 503 641 8375; ronvrooman38@gmail.com; www.orja.org
Cogent expressions are truly thought fuel. They are “thoughtful” too, but I need steady supplementation from them to get my own daily doses of food for thought. I suspect most of Clif’s followers do as well. “Makers” of brain food are as critical as the makers of bricks. Particularly since making (anything) and everything else starts with cogent thought.
Fictional universes where spaceships/starships move products from one planet to another and where the ship captains get together at watering holes at space ports and exchange news and stories are fun to imagine.
Star Wars is weak in comparison to the space operas written especially before 1987. Christopher Anvil, Heinlein, Isaac Asimov and Arthur C Clarke are some of my favorite authors.
The initial trilogy is about a rebellion against the evil empire and is very entertaining and has a lot of myth to it, but all the episodes after that went "woke" and suck big time IMO. The more recent you get, the more woke and worse they get. And the casting is way off much of the time.
I also like The Fifth Element, which has a lot of deeper meanings, but the space pirates are the bad guys. Also Dune.
How the Trust System works today, is central to how it functions as a tool for the fake "currency." The Trust System works as a Public / Private Relationship it's really a reiteration of Gog from Magog:
Gog from Magog or Yajuj and Majuj is what comes from an old Scythian saying: “One shall Govern in Front, while another Rules from Behind.” This double “king” system is what we see today in the form of Corporate Public / Private relationships. It’s found everywhere and symbolized in the Double Headed Phoenix Heraldry in many coats of arms; displayed by the Order of the Dragon and Garter Families in European Royalty and Black Nobility. This is also very well hidden in the Globalist System of Contractual Annexation; used to tie every Western “Democracy” together by “Franchise” to the few who Rule Behind. This is how Gog from Magog has been unleashed onto the world, in the form of Economic Apartheid.
Fiat paper is essentially what "Governs in Front" and the "Private Equity" is what "Rules Behind." Private Equity is the power of Allodial fee simple and Absolute Ownership. It's where the whole problem originates. It's impossible to explain this in simple terms in this comment section. Please read the 2 posts I did on this, if interested:
Intergranular describes how the "Double Headed Phoenix Heraldry" from Dragon Court outlines everything about the power structure. This is a Primer for the next one:
Corporate Chains shows a lot of diagrams as to exactly HOW the current system works and how it gets orchestrated, coordinated and driven by "Color of Law." Inside this post I have linked an important article from American Hypnotist about "Trusts":
https://badlands.substack.com/p/its-all-about-trust-law ..... If you go to the comment section it only has about 35 comments, but there is an important one I think everyone really should read from Bitter Root Services; I think he is a retired Trust Attorney who is divulging details that are mostly kept secret.
Some very powerful conversations there, important takeaway on "Trust:"
Ordinary slavery is to own the labor, but that carries with it the care for the laborer. Stakeholder Capitalism is for capital to control labor by controlling the wages. THIS CAN BE DONE BY CONTROLLING THE REAL MONEY, this money is tied up in the Trust System, and it is the Security that holds value TO the Fiat. It’s slavery re-imagined.
To fix it we must see:
There is a good reason for us to view The Individual People of any Nation as it’s True Treasure. First, lets consider that fact that Individuals are Skilled and have Knowledge; the older ones having seasoned Wisdom, no matter what era people are living in, it’s the Individuals who make EVERYTHING possible.
All commerce stems from value, that which is valued in a market place, is able to be purchased or compensated for. Individuals create objects of value such as: Ideas, Goods, and Services resulting from labor or effort. This is actually the Individual Sovereign Fruit; controlled exclusively by the Individual. This is why there should NEVER be a parameter for there to be "Eminent Domain," no controlling "legal authority" that can control what you hold as "wealth."
*** Thomas Edison, brilliantly said of the fraud of "private central banks:"
"People who will not turn a shovel full of dirt on the project nor contribute a pound of material, will collect more money from the United States than will the People who supply all the material and do all the work. This is the terrible thing about interest ...But here is the point: If the Nation can issue a dollar bond it can issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good makes the bill good also. The difference between the bond and the bill is that the bond lets the money broker collect twice the amount of the bond and an additional 20%. Whereas the currency, the honest sort provided by the Constitution pays nobody but those who contribute in some useful way. It is absurd to say our Country can issue Bonds and cannot issue Currency. Both are promises to pay, but one fattens the Usurer and the other helps the People. If the currency issued by the People were no good, then the bonds would be no good, either. It is a terrible situation when the Government, to insure the National Wealth, must go in debt and submit to ruinous interest charges at the hands of men who control the fictitious value of gold. [Fiat Paper]
[Edison makes an extremely important point here.]
He then adds:
"Look at it another way. If the Government issues bonds, the brokers will sell them. The bonds will be negotiable; they will be considered as gilt edged paper. Why? Because the government is behind them, but who is behind the Government? "The people." Therefore it is the people who constitute the basis of Government credit. Why then cannot the people have the benefit of their own gilt-edged credit by receiving non-interest bearing currency on Muscle Shoals, instead of the bankers receiving the benefit of the people's credit in interest-bearing bonds?"
-- Thomas A. Edison, New York Times, December 4, 1921
The Trust System enables Private Equity to control Public Funds and Assets. It creates the "legalese" that printing money is based on. It must be abolished. Human Value is a Treasure; it's value to other Human Beings is Immutable and Irreplaceable.
sure you have heard and know something about this well-known TRUST; IN GOD WE ; it is the IN GOD WE TRUST; the document encapsulating this TRUST is NOTICEd to everyone thus acquiring the CONsent and agreement and acknowledgement; IN GOD WE 'TRUST'; THIS 'TRUST' document/NOTICE is the Federal Reserve Not[[e][ICE]]; this NOTICE and TRUST DOC-U[YOU]MENT[MINT] was here and there this whole time; i learned myself concerning and regarding Trust Law; Thank you for this information;
I visualize minimal Government, No Courts, No Police, No Ordinances, No Permits, No Public Schools, Maybe a Sheriff with very few deputies. Most Cities being much like an Amish community. Few Laws, Thieves, Murders being dispatched by vigilantes! Take care of your own, grow your own, make your own, and pray the NWO, Klaus Schwab get removed in the mayhem.
It's becoming very interesting to see all the heavily unconscious and fear based normies. The anger, absence of knowledge is sketchy to say the least. I have always stood my ground with common sense and truth. These last four years especially have been quite something. Today however, you can cut it with a knife. It's like people are walking time bombs. There's a heaviness in the air and it doesn't feel good.
Thank you Cliff for all you are doing. Thank you to everyone who stands in your consciousness and common sense.
I love how Clif can so masterfully explain the natural and logical progression & outcomes of all the insanity taking place, and how it can ONLY lead to nothing less than human freedom, self-determination and the demise of the entire abusive power structure! Go farmers!!!
I’m lucky to be surrounded by famers, pipefitters, and electricians. Unfortunately, not all are awake, due to “Union” mindset. I’ve been preparing and prepping mentally, physically, and financially for the last 4 years. I just hope I am prepared enough for whatever happens.
If society collapses in the near future as Clif High suggests,--and I don't doubt that that is a very distinct possibility--trying to predict, as he does, what comes next is folly. There is no way to know in advance how far society will fall and at what point it will start to reorganize. If there is a complete societal collapse then it is unlikely, as he suggests, that power will return to the "Makers/Doers". Without an established supply chain nothing other than simple handheld items would be produced by individuals and that would only occur on an as needed basis. Barter would likely be the only form of exchange, which allows for little more than agrarian production and organization. It seems far more likely that tribalism would take hold and any power and wealth that there is--however that would be defined under such neo-conditions--would flow to the most successful tribe, and specifically its warlord and his henchmen. For the modern human, unaccustomed to such Hobbesian "brutishness", being killed in the nuclear blast would probably be the preferable course.
I research everything, at least I think so. I have no predictions, no plans, contingencies, dozens and dozens of contingencies.
One thing I do 'plan' for is being able to fabricate things I need. What I can't fabricate has spares.
''Humanity is about to be tested....... mayankjeptha.substack.com/p/qbpe
Yes, and until you are overrun by marauders that should keep you in good stead.
Oooh, negative Nancy, shall I just lay down and die?
Mauraders would be the subject of a few contingencies.
Deer Hunter comes to mind, even though that midget shitbag De Niro is in it. It is why I do not have any desire for a full-auto weapon. One Shot, ... One Kill. Any gang of marauders would have to be quite large, to continue marauding forward, after watching the first ten near them, fall dead. Risk assessment may be lacking in them, but a rethink may be required for them.
LOL! DeNiro is a pathetic asshole. Knowing that wrecks a lot of good movies.
No doubt you would be able to repel wave after wave John, but once all your booby traps have been sprung and you'd fired off your "million" rounds of ammo, then what? What we are discussing is the collapse of society, not just some new bully in the neighbourhood. Under such conditions, unless someone formed, or were part of, some larger "gang" it is very unlikely that anyone could hold out indefinitely--history has taught us that. Besides, the discussion was regarding the long-term (i.e. the rebuilding of society), potentially multi-generational, not just what people would do in the immediate term.
So lay down and die then. You only need one contingency. That certainly makes it simple. Sucks to be you.
C-
Did you not start your discourse with "to predict what comes next is folly" and then go on to predict what would come next? ...specifically that John's defenses would eventually run out? This presumes a constant supply of criminals. The life expectancy of those who poach for a living may be quite short. Where there exists no law enforcement, the practice of thievery is punishable at the discretion of those with the momentary upper hand. In countries where theft is punishable by severing the right hand, leaving the thief with only his "ass wiping hand" theft remains quite low.
Yessir. I collect 5 gallon buckets which have a million uses. The two things I concentrate on? Springs and wheels; from the doors of appliances and old bicycles. I can probably make them if I had a gun to my head, but it is soooooo much easier to scavenge them now.
Survival is the only thing that matters in the now. Contemplating what comes after the collapse is folly because novelty breeds change.
Contemplating something is not folly--drawing unfounded conclusions from it is.
Survival is the only thing. They're going to try to kill everyone.
Who are "they", and according to whom?
"They" are the Archons, overlords, rulers. Look up the secret covenant or watch the latest dollar_vigilante video on bitchute. And it's according to the Nag Hammadi codex.
I try to be stocked up on what I need to survive, but knowing I will not last, all I can hope for is to last longer than some others. And even though I have very limited resources with which to accumulate supplies, I still do it with the core notion that I will be helping my neighbors in whatever way I might be able, in desperate times, purely for the sake of feeling like a human being. I know it would cut my survival duration shorter, but that is secondary.
In the end, if it is to be that we feel the heat, well, I'll have my lawn chair, shades and a cold one, ready for the big flash. In some situations, I feel that ultimate survival, is overrated.
That is well measured. You are certainly correct about "ultimate survival;" we are, after all, mortal--what comes after that remains an open question.
Bad news: you'll never be prepared enough.
Good News: with the right mindset, you'll always be prepared enough.
You're going to do just fine and I wish you all the best.
I can do all that, if I couldn't I would be learning how.
be glad you have them......
A lot will depend on what part of the nation you're in, and whether city or rural. I live in S. GA in the country near a small town (5-7000 pop.) Construction everywhere. Houses, apt. complexes, offices, stores, fast food. Alternatively, the local Popeye's shut down after being open 6 mos - can't get anybody to work. Lots of work, lots of "help wanted" signs, going out to eat almost as often as ever although prices have gone up. To look at S. GA, you'd never think there was anything going on.
Hello again Woo Crew! I lucked out and sat down for a few minutes after my morning chores! Yeah, two times the fun!
Like I try to say, “Go make some Great Stuff!!” I’m going to go pull some sourdough bread out of the oven now!
Ha, we made ours yesterday after digging some potatoes. Today is berry and bean picking!
II just got done last week, dehydrating 26 dozen eggs, crumbling it, then smashing in a large granite mortar to get sifted powder. The price of eggs came way down, so I had the thought of trying to dry them to store up. ..... I was half way through drying all the eggs when the media blew up the Bird Flu nonsense. Depending on how fast or slow the cost of eggs goes up, I may do another 25 doz real soon. Luckily, I remembered to weigh some of them. I dried 5 doz, powdered it and kept it separate from the rest and got a total weight, then divided that weight by 60, then used a teaspoon to measure how many it would take to reach that weight. Approx 5 level tsp = one egg. The rehydrating water measurement part I will do later.
I've been out gardening in the rain. Last bed almost done, family outing tomorrow and these tomatoes need to be in the ground..
If ur using store bought plants or seeds ur gonna want a sun shade tarp the uv is cooking tomatoes and other veggies n the south. Uv been above the scale n ohio I had 2 get some for my animals they refuse 2 b in the sun
Thanks for the advice. I have a black thumb but I'm working of fixing that.
I'm in Canada but it can get hot here too. The tomatoes I planted from seed are huge but these I just bought a few days ago. 40 for $17.50 Romas, I thought that was OK.
I have a bolt of burlap and deer fence. The beds I built have wire rings at either end and one in the middle for covers. I use the deer fence to keep chipmunks from digging up my little plants, I've not used the burlap.
What do you use for sun shade?
Duck cloth is durable and makes a good "sun sail" - you've seen them: triangular cloths shading a patio. Doesn't have to be triangular, of course. Also lace curtains (thrift shop), mosquito netting curtains (I used this inside greenhouse in summer). If there's a bamboo patch anywhere, they make great frameworks if you can get some. I got HUGE mosquito net curtains from internet for serious cheap $$.
I have lots of mosquito net, probably enough to cover a couple beds. Not much bamboo in Canada. I don't think. Guy was building a cedar fence across the street, 1" x 1" x 4' cedar stakes separating the layers. I got a whole bunch of red cedar stakes! They won't stay red but they look pretty cool right now.
It would be so cool if we could organize a Seed Bank Exchange!!! I have so many seeds that I was not able to get into the ground this year do to limited space. And, tho, I AM manifesting having more space next year, I still have oodles of organic seeds that I would love to share!!!
my cat won't go out its 105' in the shade today.
enjoy your day with family ,you are blessed, and thanks for the link.just cautious not too tech saavy, been hacked 2 x's clicking on a link....
Hacked from clicking on a link? Sometimes I forget that not everyone uses Linux.
I used to have to fix my mom's computer 2 or 3 times a year then I put her on Linux, maybe 15 years ago. She has departed and I'm using the Linux box I bought her right now. To be fair it was pretty kickass when it was new.
The moral of the story is I never once had to fix her Linux box.
Would love to do that - but I am not tech saavy . . hubby even (many times) less so LOL. . . same with privacy phones. =:-\\
i have a small device, no cell phone....so i keep things real simple....i thank you again...
Cool, what is the device? I like small devices.
samsung,no storage,,,,,,,
What happened to our craftsmen, sewers, plumbers, carpenters, welders and others with skills? The cabal changed our education system to eliminate shop, sewing and cooking classes, for the most part. If someone wants to go into the trades now, they have to find apprenticeships where they can acquire those skills.
I saw this transformation first hand.
I had occasion to do some substitute teaching in cooking and sewing classes and discovered twenty five years ago how few of these these classes are taught now. Hardly anything like what I experienced in the 1960s. This was by design I believe.
My grandmother initially taught me to sew at age 11 and I went on to take sewing and cooking classes. Few of my then classmates chose to sew after high school. Few were great cooks and even fewer of the boys went into trades.
I took journalism and English in college and graduated. I taught English, subbed in both English and journalism classes and noted the lack of real writing skills amongst the students. I knew then that our society was in trouble.
Skilled tradespeople are diminishing at an alarming rate. Old and no longer able or willing to do this strenuous work they moved on to retirement. Who will do this now?
I am hoping a new crop of apprentices springs up. We need skilled people and I think the time of ridiculing blue collar workers is over. Maybe some of these retired old farts will come out of their retirement and do come teaching.
I will give you a front-line answer; Born early 90s... Grew up in a VERY techy household & community near Microsoft (somewhat near to Clif, actually). Loved computers just fine, but was ALWAYS pushing to develop / investigate "hard skills" -> automotive, construction, applied science, manufacturing, industry, metalworking, etc.
- The schools in my community offered NO CLASSES in any of these things. The most we had was a woodshop, and this was dismantled about 5 years after I went through that school.
- My parents had this strange hypnotism over them for "higher liberal education"... a sort of bizarre 'fawning' for 'college'. Realized later this was due to emotional issue from my dad.
- All parents, teachers, etc. in the community had a similar hypnosis; They had a strange FEAR of the 'dangers' of physical / industrial work, and constantly discouraged / steered-us-away / soft-pedaled when we asked to use some of our community's money to be introduced to these trades.
- These high-strong liberal communities were SO dang litigious. They'd spend more time crowing about the work "litigation" than even thinking about the details of industrial training.
It's a culture, two generations in the making.
We can only hope that young people still will have that "PUSH" you mention, Marcus, to learn skilled trades, even if just DIY. My family was all intellectual and educationally oriented but my younger brother was the oddball: although he did get his B.S. he was always handy w/ tools and fixing things and now makes a good living as a handyman and retired plant manager. It's just inborn in some people. Hopefully that will continue!
Offspring of friend of mine in S. GA are choosing careers in just those areas that seem to have disappeared - high salaries and opportunities. College is seen as a waste unless the goal is nursing or teaching, something practical that requires credentials. It's cultural and regional.
they are starting to bring back these classes.....chatter
That's what we need from here on out of young folks go back to learning the many trades you listed, instead of going to college that to me is a big waste of time and money, with many not being able to get a job when they graduate. It's very hard to find a good electrician or plumber nowadays. I took home ec and sewing classes in high school (1970-74) - that's 50 years ago!! Although I'm not into sewing, I do a lot of crocheting of afghans, baby blankets to give as gifts to family and friends as well as donate to the needy. High schools should bring back home ec, sewing, including how to grow food classes as it will be needed the way things are going as we move forward.
My husband is a land developer/homebuilder and many other things. He is a big doer/maker and I think we will be fine.
I didn't realise it was that bad. I was basically an academic student but I took electricity, auto-mechanics and architectural drafting. I regret not taking machine shop, but I could have.
I had shop in grade eight, everyone did. I have a magazine rack that I made for my mother in shop over 50 years ago.
I guess that's half a century, I wonder what we were learning a century ago. Probably law.
I was in a college prep course in H.S. and we kind of looked down on those students who took shop and home ec, believing that they couldn't hack it in academics; he who laughs last, eh?
We will be harvesting medicinal herbs today.
Well, hell yeah!!!
We got comfrey in the ground (finally!) around all the fruit trees in our little orchard. We planted the Bocking#4 strain as a treat to the livestock.
The earth provides everything that we need. Even on the high desert there is a plethora of medicinals, There is a bumper crop of mullein and st john's wort. Besides, it is a lot of fun harvesting and creating medicines.
I used to see mullein everywhere in AL, but don't see any in S. GA. Do you live in an area that it prefers? I'm wondering what it would take to grow it here.
Burt, I travel full time in the Western US and see mullein widespread especially in Colorado and Montana. However, I have also lived in the NE and it was prolific there. I find it is one of the first plants to propagate after a forest fire or extensive logging. There are seeds available on-line. I feel quite sure that you could grow it with relatively little effort. I find it quite beneficial for lung issues and used it during the Covid era. Here is a link to the seeds: https://mckennaseeds.com/products/mullein-seeds-heirloom?variant=48415519375648¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwhIS0BhBqEiwADAUhc_qxe5TX2ycVnun8lXBsHUzLbFcUjUuCU_rkR16Tlkfa2FFFCmL5rhoC1PYQAvD_BwE
Thanks for the source. I've a (survival) greenhouse, but I want to grow medicinal herbs.
Growing and processing medicinal herbs is a rewarding experience. All the best.
I'm in rural south central PA and our property has an explosion of mullein this year (as well as pokeweed). I recall seeing only a couple last year, and this year they're huge! One is about 4 ft tall.
Sounds like a plan to me! Bring it on!
As a former religious order member, it still amazes me that all religions are exactly what Clif says: Stockholm syndrome groups. It seems so obvious now!
This is so on point, this gave me shivers !
“they have not been taught to live with themselves. They have no concept of a ‘personal discipline’, nor ‘responsibility for personal mind control’.
yes!
AHH! Like most things in life, our "problems" are also our "opportunities" I have read that in the Chinese Kanji, those two words share the same character. As a third-generation union carpenter; that is about 100 years of experience to date, I can tell you that my grandfather, my father, and myself have all been considered somewhat crazy. There is a fine line between insanity and genius, and I believe that my grandfather, my uncles on my dad's side and my cousins and their children and grandchildren (my "KIN") have all been walking that line. Take no shit, tolerate no stupidity, and by all means produce way more that we consume. Not junk either, but the best of the best. Invent, make it faster and better and simply out compete the rest of the idiots. It looks like the rest of the world if finally getting it. I think that most of this group is on that page already, but if you are insulted, I apologize. I am sure you will get over it. In the meantime (for the last 50 years or so) I have been teaching as many people as I can what I have learned. If you need something done or something built, call a Crookston. Hey, you can always tell a Crookston; you just can't tell them very much!
applause !
John find or form you jural assembly soonest. We will help www.orsja.org
Von, Good point. I am working with the National Liberty Alliance to set up Committees of Safety to make the local and appointed officials obey their oaths to the constitution. There are also the 10th amendment committees, the Jural assemblies, and about 5 other groups in Michigan alone. It is hard to get anyone else to pull in the same direction. I know that perhaps it would be good to just set up ": communities" of likeminded people and work to protect each other and look out for each other's interests. I am not a bible scholar, but I believe it says to "get out of Babylon" OK, where do you go?
You need to organize and build villages with all of the essentials if you are going to get away from "HER" My brother has developed a "POD" home that can be fully built in about 2 days. Very well insulated, anchored to the ground, but above the ground at the same time, shippable and expandable. Probably 40% of what a regular house will cost and a LOT more energy efficient. I have the sanitation figured out; look up "Humanure" by Joseph Jenkins, I know some of the people on this site are familiar with his work, and now we need a water source and a diverse group of people with diverse skill sets that can meet the needs of a community. It will be hard, but being a slave is even harder!
John Derash (sp) is de facto and his Committees of Safety are bogus and prior to 1775 USMC, 1776 D of I, 1777 Confederation and pepetual Union. He is all about taking forever to get things done. He kicked me out twice and Laura on Oregon got me back twice. I quit when he kicked me out the thrid time. I joined again several years later. I argued against him on his own show, He admitted to being wrong twice. he dominates the conversations. He is smart and controlled opposition. He will swap one de facto for another and never get to de jure. That is all bullshit.
There are 33 states among the severla states and they must be the Constitutional provisional governments to meet in Congress Assembled. No Counties or villages involved. Only states ARTICLE I Section 1. social compact.
You are going down a rabit hole to no avail. Anna is a liar and John does not tell the truth. Jim is a liar also. So is Richard Mack. 503 641 8375; ronvrooman38@gmail.com; www.orja.org
Thank you once again, Yogi. 🙏
Cogent expressions are truly thought fuel. They are “thoughtful” too, but I need steady supplementation from them to get my own daily doses of food for thought. I suspect most of Clif’s followers do as well. “Makers” of brain food are as critical as the makers of bricks. Particularly since making (anything) and everything else starts with cogent thought.
Clif you said in conclusion that we humans will incorporate space piracy into our own repertoire? That sounds like your idea of fun, right?
Who wouldn't cheer on a space pirate?
Hollywood has given us actual watchable good movies / series about space pirates.
What should we conclude from that?
Fictional universes where spaceships/starships move products from one planet to another and where the ship captains get together at watering holes at space ports and exchange news and stories are fun to imagine.
I was thinking of things like Firefly, Gardians of the Galaxy, The Mandalorian, Riddick.
I've watched all those, at least the good bits, and I don't watch much.
They are fun to imagine and except maybe for the Mandalorian they are all fighting the man.
I've never watched Star Wars and that's not going to change.
Star Wars is weak in comparison to the space operas written especially before 1987. Christopher Anvil, Heinlein, Isaac Asimov and Arthur C Clarke are some of my favorite authors.
Glory Road is possibly my favourite book. I love Heinlein, and the rest that you list as well, but Heinlein rules.
Edit: typo but I should add that Heinlein may be the lease liberal person you could imagine.
TANSTAAFL.
The initial trilogy is about a rebellion against the evil empire and is very entertaining and has a lot of myth to it, but all the episodes after that went "woke" and suck big time IMO. The more recent you get, the more woke and worse they get. And the casting is way off much of the time.
I also like The Fifth Element, which has a lot of deeper meanings, but the space pirates are the bad guys. Also Dune.
Firefly. Series on TV for several seasons. Only the background is changed: same old bar with the same old cowboys.
depopulatin agenda started a war with farmers.
How the Trust System works today, is central to how it functions as a tool for the fake "currency." The Trust System works as a Public / Private Relationship it's really a reiteration of Gog from Magog:
Gog from Magog or Yajuj and Majuj is what comes from an old Scythian saying: “One shall Govern in Front, while another Rules from Behind.” This double “king” system is what we see today in the form of Corporate Public / Private relationships. It’s found everywhere and symbolized in the Double Headed Phoenix Heraldry in many coats of arms; displayed by the Order of the Dragon and Garter Families in European Royalty and Black Nobility. This is also very well hidden in the Globalist System of Contractual Annexation; used to tie every Western “Democracy” together by “Franchise” to the few who Rule Behind. This is how Gog from Magog has been unleashed onto the world, in the form of Economic Apartheid.
Fiat paper is essentially what "Governs in Front" and the "Private Equity" is what "Rules Behind." Private Equity is the power of Allodial fee simple and Absolute Ownership. It's where the whole problem originates. It's impossible to explain this in simple terms in this comment section. Please read the 2 posts I did on this, if interested:
https://nefahotep.substack.com/p/intergranular-corruption-and-how
Intergranular describes how the "Double Headed Phoenix Heraldry" from Dragon Court outlines everything about the power structure. This is a Primer for the next one:
https://nefahotep.substack.com/p/corporate-chains-of-custody-illustrate
Corporate Chains shows a lot of diagrams as to exactly HOW the current system works and how it gets orchestrated, coordinated and driven by "Color of Law." Inside this post I have linked an important article from American Hypnotist about "Trusts":
https://badlands.substack.com/p/its-all-about-trust-law ..... If you go to the comment section it only has about 35 comments, but there is an important one I think everyone really should read from Bitter Root Services; I think he is a retired Trust Attorney who is divulging details that are mostly kept secret.
Some very powerful conversations there, important takeaway on "Trust:"
Ordinary slavery is to own the labor, but that carries with it the care for the laborer. Stakeholder Capitalism is for capital to control labor by controlling the wages. THIS CAN BE DONE BY CONTROLLING THE REAL MONEY, this money is tied up in the Trust System, and it is the Security that holds value TO the Fiat. It’s slavery re-imagined.
To fix it we must see:
There is a good reason for us to view The Individual People of any Nation as it’s True Treasure. First, lets consider that fact that Individuals are Skilled and have Knowledge; the older ones having seasoned Wisdom, no matter what era people are living in, it’s the Individuals who make EVERYTHING possible.
All commerce stems from value, that which is valued in a market place, is able to be purchased or compensated for. Individuals create objects of value such as: Ideas, Goods, and Services resulting from labor or effort. This is actually the Individual Sovereign Fruit; controlled exclusively by the Individual. This is why there should NEVER be a parameter for there to be "Eminent Domain," no controlling "legal authority" that can control what you hold as "wealth."
*** Thomas Edison, brilliantly said of the fraud of "private central banks:"
"People who will not turn a shovel full of dirt on the project nor contribute a pound of material, will collect more money from the United States than will the People who supply all the material and do all the work. This is the terrible thing about interest ...But here is the point: If the Nation can issue a dollar bond it can issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good makes the bill good also. The difference between the bond and the bill is that the bond lets the money broker collect twice the amount of the bond and an additional 20%. Whereas the currency, the honest sort provided by the Constitution pays nobody but those who contribute in some useful way. It is absurd to say our Country can issue Bonds and cannot issue Currency. Both are promises to pay, but one fattens the Usurer and the other helps the People. If the currency issued by the People were no good, then the bonds would be no good, either. It is a terrible situation when the Government, to insure the National Wealth, must go in debt and submit to ruinous interest charges at the hands of men who control the fictitious value of gold. [Fiat Paper]
[Edison makes an extremely important point here.]
He then adds:
"Look at it another way. If the Government issues bonds, the brokers will sell them. The bonds will be negotiable; they will be considered as gilt edged paper. Why? Because the government is behind them, but who is behind the Government? "The people." Therefore it is the people who constitute the basis of Government credit. Why then cannot the people have the benefit of their own gilt-edged credit by receiving non-interest bearing currency on Muscle Shoals, instead of the bankers receiving the benefit of the people's credit in interest-bearing bonds?"
-- Thomas A. Edison, New York Times, December 4, 1921
The Trust System enables Private Equity to control Public Funds and Assets. It creates the "legalese" that printing money is based on. It must be abolished. Human Value is a Treasure; it's value to other Human Beings is Immutable and Irreplaceable.
sure you have heard and know something about this well-known TRUST; IN GOD WE ; it is the IN GOD WE TRUST; the document encapsulating this TRUST is NOTICEd to everyone thus acquiring the CONsent and agreement and acknowledgement; IN GOD WE 'TRUST'; THIS 'TRUST' document/NOTICE is the Federal Reserve Not[[e][ICE]]; this NOTICE and TRUST DOC-U[YOU]MENT[MINT] was here and there this whole time; i learned myself concerning and regarding Trust Law; Thank you for this information;
builders can be put back on line fast , but good tool makers take years. need training set up for them..
I visualize minimal Government, No Courts, No Police, No Ordinances, No Permits, No Public Schools, Maybe a Sheriff with very few deputies. Most Cities being much like an Amish community. Few Laws, Thieves, Murders being dispatched by vigilantes! Take care of your own, grow your own, make your own, and pray the NWO, Klaus Schwab get removed in the mayhem.
We only need one law. Do no harm.
Natural law..... Mark Passio. "What On Earth Is Happening" .com
It's becoming very interesting to see all the heavily unconscious and fear based normies. The anger, absence of knowledge is sketchy to say the least. I have always stood my ground with common sense and truth. These last four years especially have been quite something. Today however, you can cut it with a knife. It's like people are walking time bombs. There's a heaviness in the air and it doesn't feel good.
Thank you Cliff for all you are doing. Thank you to everyone who stands in your consciousness and common sense.
WELL said!
I love how Clif can so masterfully explain the natural and logical progression & outcomes of all the insanity taking place, and how it can ONLY lead to nothing less than human freedom, self-determination and the demise of the entire abusive power structure! Go farmers!!!
We love farmers.